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Electrical - convert 110v to 220v outlet using 12/2 w/ground tim 08-04-2006
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Posted by on August 4, 2006, 7:15 pm
Hi I have NM Romex 12/2 with ground currently running from my panel to
a wellhouse and it's setup for 110 which is running one outlet for a
light and the well pump. I need to install a new pump but it requires
220v. Assuming I convert my breaker to 220, can I use the existing
12/2 romex for the new outlet in the wellhouse or do I need to run
additional wiring?

cheers,
bigballer


Posted by Pete C. on August 4, 2006, 7:39 pm
tim@wetfoot.net wrote:
>
> Hi I have NM Romex 12/2 with ground currently running from my panel to
> a wellhouse and it's setup for 110 which is running one outlet for a
> light and the well pump. I need to install a new pump but it requires
> 220v. Assuming I convert my breaker to 220, can I use the existing
> 12/2 romex for the new outlet in the wellhouse or do I need to run
> additional wiring?
>
> cheers,
> bigballer

You can use the existing 12/2, but you'll have to dump the outlet /
light since you won't have a valid neutral, just two hots (marking the
white wire with red tape as the other hot) and a ground. You could
potentially use a 220V light, such a commercial fluorescent or HID unit.

Pete C.

Posted by zxcvbob on August 4, 2006, 8:22 pm
Pete C. wrote:
> tim@wetfoot.net wrote:
>> Hi I have NM Romex 12/2 with ground currently running from my panel to
>> a wellhouse and it's setup for 110 which is running one outlet for a
>> light and the well pump. I need to install a new pump but it requires
>> 220v. Assuming I convert my breaker to 220, can I use the existing
>> 12/2 romex for the new outlet in the wellhouse or do I need to run
>> additional wiring?
>>
>> cheers,
>> bigballer
>
> You can use the existing 12/2, but you'll have to dump the outlet /
> light since you won't have a valid neutral, just two hots (marking the
> white wire with red tape as the other hot) and a ground. You could
> potentially use a 220V light, such a commercial fluorescent or HID unit.
>
> Pete C.


He could also use a transformer to derive enough 110V for a lightbulb.

Or, a two-lamp fixture could be rewired in series; the white wire from
each lampholder tied together would float, so the two bulbs would need
to be the same wattage. (UL might not approve of this.)

Putting a 220V ballast in a fluorescent shop light might be the best option.

Bob

Posted by Pete C. on August 4, 2006, 11:05 pm
zxcvbob wrote:
>
> Pete C. wrote:
> > tim@wetfoot.net wrote:
> >> Hi I have NM Romex 12/2 with ground currently running from my panel to
> >> a wellhouse and it's setup for 110 which is running one outlet for a
> >> light and the well pump. I need to install a new pump but it requires
> >> 220v. Assuming I convert my breaker to 220, can I use the existing
> >> 12/2 romex for the new outlet in the wellhouse or do I need to run
> >> additional wiring?
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> bigballer
> >
> > You can use the existing 12/2, but you'll have to dump the outlet /
> > light since you won't have a valid neutral, just two hots (marking the
> > white wire with red tape as the other hot) and a ground. You could
> > potentially use a 220V light, such a commercial fluorescent or HID unit.
> >
> > Pete C.
>
> He could also use a transformer to derive enough 110V for a lightbulb.

Certainly.

>
> Or, a two-lamp fixture could be rewired in series; the white wire from
> each lampholder tied together would float, so the two bulbs would need
> to be the same wattage. (UL might not approve of this.)

Pretty sure they wouldn't like it since it would leave a 240v
differential across a single socket with the bulb out if the power was
left on when changing bulbs like many people do.

>
> Putting a 220V ballast in a fluorescent shop light might be the best option.

Right or a nice little HID fixture like one of the 70 watt HPS.

Pete C.

Posted by on August 5, 2006, 6:29 am
Pete C. wrote:
> tim@wetfoot.net wrote:
>> Hi I have NM Romex 12/2 with ground currently running from my panel to
>> a wellhouse and it's setup for 110 which is running one outlet for a
>> light and the well pump. I need to install a new pump but it requires
>> 220v. Assuming I convert my breaker to 220, can I use the existing
>> 12/2 romex for the new outlet in the wellhouse or do I need to run
>> additional wiring?
>
> You can use the existing 12/2, but you'll have to dump the outlet /
> light since you won't have a valid neutral, just two hots (marking the
> white wire with red tape as the other hot) and a ground...

What's wrong with using the light and outlet? No worse than knob and tube...

Nick


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