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Electrical in Old House for Low Voltage Fixture 6zbeast 11-19-2006
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Posted by Mark Lloyd on November 20, 2006, 1:31 pm


On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:19:54 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"

>6zbeast wrote:
>> I was hoping somebody could help. I have installed a low voltage
>> fixture in my hallway and I can't seem to get it to work. The house
>> is old, and the wiring is always a surprise. Many light fixtures,
>> including this one, have voltage in the box even when the switch is
>> turned off (learned this the hard way with the first light I replaced
>> in the house). Seems like the power runs through the fixture down to
>> the swich, instead of the reverse. I don' t know if this would make
>> a low voltage light not work. Maybe the transformer is just
>> defective. When I turn it on, I can barely hear the transformer
>> making a slight buzz sound, but the lights don't light up. I also
>> thought it might be the track, but I've inspected it and it seems
>> okay. I've even tried reverse wiring it, still no luck.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> That wiring is not unusual. It is proper to do it either way.
>
> Someone needs to measure the voltage at the transformer (voltage in and
>voltage out). Remember that using a digital meter can result in measuring
>AC voltages that are really not there.

A high impedance source. The voltage is really there, but the source
has a VERY low load capacity.

> For this kind of work a older analog
>meter is better. The voltage has to be measured at each connection until you
>find one that is dead.
>
> I would have to guess that if the transformer is buzzing, even a little,
>it is getting voltage. Have you checked the bulb(s)?
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Posted by Joseph Meehan on November 20, 2006, 2:21 pm


Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:19:54 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
>
..

>>
>> Someone needs to measure the voltage at the transformer (voltage
>> in and voltage out). Remember that using a digital meter can result
>> in measuring AC voltages that are really not there.
>
> A high impedance source. The voltage is really there, but the source
> has a VERY low load capacity.
>

True. Voltage but almost zero current potential.

--
Joseph Meehan

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Posted by Mark Lloyd on November 20, 2006, 3:46 pm


On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:21:21 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"

>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:19:54 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
>>
>..
>
>>>
>>> Someone needs to measure the voltage at the transformer (voltage
>>> in and voltage out). Remember that using a digital meter can result
>>> in measuring AC voltages that are really not there.
>>
>> A high impedance source. The voltage is really there, but the source
>> has a VERY low load capacity.
>>
>
> True. Voltage but almost zero current potential.

Possibly leading to inconsistent readings on different ranges of an
analog meter (meter causes a different load on each range).
--
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Mark Lloyd
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

Posted by Joseph Meehan on November 20, 2006, 4:05 pm


Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:21:21 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
>
>> Mark Lloyd wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 12:19:54 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
>>>
>> ..
>>
>>>>
>>>> Someone needs to measure the voltage at the transformer (voltage
>>>> in and voltage out). Remember that using a digital meter can
>>>> result in measuring AC voltages that are really not there.
>>>
>>> A high impedance source. The voltage is really there, but the source
>>> has a VERY low load capacity.
>>>
>>
>> True. Voltage but almost zero current potential.
>
> Possibly leading to inconsistent readings on different ranges of an
> analog meter (meter causes a different load on each range).

You are too use to professional level meters. :-) Most digital meters
OP's will have low enough resistance they would be lucky to get any readings
of voltage no matter what range they used. :-)

Of course you are right.

--
Joseph Meehan

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