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Electrical installation tubes Pygmalion 05-14-2007
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Posted by Pygmalion on May 14, 2007, 8:41 am

I have recently moved into a brand new appartment. I was amazed to
find out that every room is equipped with only one UTP and one
coaxial cable - I think two UTP cables would be much more usual these
days. Cables are layed into installation tubes of 18 mm diameter. I
have two questions:

- Is one UTP and one coaxial cable per room normal, or am I eligible
to request cable update from the construction company?

- Since cables are layed into installation tubes, should cables be
replaceable? The problem is that installation tubes already hold
cables when they were installed, so there is a great possibility that
cables couldn't be replaced. And if cables are not replaceable, what
to do? Request a whole new installation from the construction
company?

Thanks for the answer.

Marko


Posted by Toller on May 14, 2007, 10:18 am

>
> I have recently moved into a brand new appartment. I was amazed to
> find out that every room is equipped with only one UTP and one
> coaxial cable - I think two UTP cables would be much more usual these
> days. Cables are layed into installation tubes of 18 mm diameter. I
> have two questions:
>
> - Is one UTP and one coaxial cable per room normal, or am I eligible
> to request cable update from the construction company?
>
> - Since cables are layed into installation tubes, should cables be
> replaceable? The problem is that installation tubes already hold
> cables when they were installed, so there is a great possibility that
> cables couldn't be replaced. And if cables are not replaceable, what
> to do? Request a whole new installation from the construction
> company?
>
What do you want to do that isn't possible now?
Did they mislead you about the issue, or were you somehow prevented from
finding out about it?

Unless I am missing something here, I would like to see their reaction when
you request your "cable update".



Posted by Pygmalion on May 15, 2007, 2:31 am

Toller je napisal:

> What do you want to do that isn't possible now?
> Did they mislead you about the issue, or were you somehow prevented from
> finding out about it?
>
> Unless I am missing something here, I would like to see their reaction when
> you request your "cable update".

I want to have one computer and one TV set on the far end. For each -
I was told - you need one UTP cable.

Marko


Posted by John Grabowski on May 14, 2007, 10:19 am

>
> I have recently moved into a brand new appartment. I was amazed to
> find out that every room is equipped with only one UTP and one
> coaxial cable - I think two UTP cables would be much more usual these
> days. Cables are layed into installation tubes of 18 mm diameter. I
> have two questions:
>
> - Is one UTP and one coaxial cable per room normal, or am I eligible
> to request cable update from the construction company?
>
> - Since cables are layed into installation tubes, should cables be
> replaceable? The problem is that installation tubes already hold
> cables when they were installed, so there is a great possibility that
> cables couldn't be replaced. And if cables are not replaceable, what
> to do? Request a whole new installation from the construction
> company?
>
> Thanks for the answer.
>
> Marko

Consider yourself lucky to have wiring in every room. Communications lines
are under the jurisdiction of the FCC. They have recommendations for what
the current standards should be, but as far as I know they are not
enforceable standards by the local building department. Since the existing
wiring is in conduit (I am assuming that is what you meant by "Tubes") it
may be possible to pull additional wiring in them, but that depends on the
size of the conduit and if they actually go the whole length of the wiring
run. I think some builders and owners are installing more wiring to make it
appealing to a buyer or tenant while others still go the cheapest way
possible.


Posted by Pygmalion on May 15, 2007, 2:42 am

John Grabowski je napisal:
> Consider yourself lucky to have wiring in every room. Communications lines
> are under the jurisdiction of the FCC. They have recommendations for what
> the current standards should be, but as far as I know they are not
> enforceable standards by the local building department. Since the existing
> wiring is in conduit (I am assuming that is what you meant by "Tubes") it
> may be possible to pull additional wiring in them, but that depends on the
> size of the conduit and if they actually go the whole length of the wiring
> run. I think some builders and owners are installing more wiring to make it
> appealing to a buyer or tenant while others still go the cheapest way
> possible.

Conduits present in my flat are 18 mm internal diameter PVC tuboflex
conduits for concrete installation. They run all along flat, and they
are most probably connected at two places using usual insulating tape
(I guess this is not regular installing procedure). I tried to pull
one cable out of the conduit and I failed to move it out. Maybe I did
not use enough force.

Marko


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