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Electrical outlet HALF working airtym 06-29-2006
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Posted by airtym on June 29, 2006, 12:41 pm
I have an electrical outlet that is only showing 50 volts and I have
used an outlet test to check the wiring and it is telling me that my
wires are reveresed. Wiring is correct as far as I can see. Replacing
with new outlet didn't solve issue. Any thoughts?

Josh
airtym@yahoo.com


Posted by Toller on June 29, 2006, 12:52 pm

>I have an electrical outlet that is only showing 50 volts and I have
> used an outlet test to check the wiring and it is telling me that my
> wires are reveresed. Wiring is correct as far as I can see. Replacing
> with new outlet didn't solve issue. Any thoughts?
>
Hard to diagnose it from here. Measure voltage from hot to ground, hot to
neutral, and neutral to ground. That should tell you what is going on.

Has it been working properly up to now, or did something change?
If hot to ground is 50v, then you have a series circuit of some kind. Most
likely possibility is that you have a multiwire circuit with a floating
neutral; but like I said, it is hard to say from here.



Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 29, 2006, 1:33 pm
airtym wrote:
> I have an electrical outlet that is only showing 50 volts and I have
> used an outlet test to check the wiring and it is telling me that my
> wires are reveresed. Wiring is correct as far as I can see. Replacing
> with new outlet didn't solve issue. Any thoughts?
>
> Josh
> airtym@yahoo.com


I am guessing that the 50V you get are really ghost volts. That is you
are using a new digital meter as opposed to the older analog meters. The
digital meters do not drain off the voltage that may be produced by
induction. It likely is little more than static electricity.

Do both outlets (assuming it is a standard duplex outlet) show the same
readings? Have you looked to make sure the wires are firmly attached? (If
it wires are attached via the back stab connections, remove them and attach
them to the side screw connections.)

Is it only one outlet? Are any breakers off? Has there been any other
"interesting" things going on electrically speaking?

How old is the home/wiring?

Is there a GFI on the circuit?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



Posted by airtym on July 2, 2006, 9:18 am

Joseph Meehan wrote:
> airtym wrote:
> > I have an electrical outlet that is only showing 50 volts and I have
> > used an outlet test to check the wiring and it is telling me that my
> > wires are reveresed. Wiring is correct as far as I can see. Replacing
> > with new outlet didn't solve issue. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Josh
> > airtym@yahoo.com
>
>
> I am guessing that the 50V you get are really ghost volts. That is you
> are using a new digital meter as opposed to the older analog meters. The
> digital meters do not drain off the voltage that may be produced by
> induction. It likely is little more than static electricity.
>
> Do both outlets (assuming it is a standard duplex outlet) show the same
> readings? Have you looked to make sure the wires are firmly attached? (If
> it wires are attached via the back stab connections, remove them and attach
> them to the side screw connections.)
>
> Is it only one outlet? Are any breakers off? Has there been any other
> "interesting" things going on electrically speaking?
>
> How old is the home/wiring?
>
> Is there a GFI on the circuit?
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia duit

Good Morning,

I don't know much about this stuff so thanks for helping. Yes, both
outlets show the same voltage on my digital voltameter. I have had this
issue for sometime now, so when I started working on this again the
other day I started with a brand new outlet out of the box. At first I
had the wires connected to the side mount nuts and now have them into
the back. This is the only outlet in the house having issues. I have no
breakers out. Wiring in the home is from 1974 and is 100 amp service.
The panel has the "screw" type fuses. There are no GFI in my house. I
only thing I had not done yet is truly track down where this wiring
leds to next/from.

Thanks for your help,
Josh


Posted by Joseph Meehan on July 2, 2006, 1:42 pm
airtym wrote:
> Joseph Meehan wrote:
>> airtym wrote:
>>> I have an electrical outlet that is only showing 50 volts and I have
>>> used an outlet test to check the wiring and it is telling me that my
>>> wires are reveresed. Wiring is correct as far as I can see.
>>> Replacing with new outlet didn't solve issue. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Josh
>>> airtym@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> I am guessing that the 50V you get are really ghost volts. That
>> is you are using a new digital meter as opposed to the older analog
>> meters. The digital meters do not drain off the voltage that may be
>> produced by induction. It likely is little more than static
>> electricity.
>>
>> Do both outlets (assuming it is a standard duplex outlet) show
>> the same readings? Have you looked to make sure the wires are
>> firmly attached? (If it wires are attached via the back stab
>> connections, remove them and attach them to the side screw
>> connections.)
>>
>> Is it only one outlet? Are any breakers off? Has there been
>> any other "interesting" things going on electrically speaking?
>>
>> How old is the home/wiring?
>>
>> Is there a GFI on the circuit?
>>
>> --
>> Joseph Meehan
>>
>> Dia duit
>
> Good Morning,
>
> I don't know much about this stuff so thanks for helping. Yes, both
> outlets show the same voltage on my digital voltameter.

Be sure to read John's suggestion about the night light. I suspect that
will eliminate that 50V you are seeing. In fact don't be surprised that the
next time you check it is 20V or 100V. I suspect it is a red herring.

> I have had
> this issue for sometime now, so when I started working on this again
> the other day I started with a brand new outlet out of the box. At
> first I had the wires connected to the side mount nuts and now have
> them into the back.

Put them back on the side screw down connections. Don't use those back
stab connectors, they cause a lot of problems.

> This is the only outlet in the house having
> issues. I have no breakers out. Wiring in the home is from 1974 and
> is 100 amp service. The panel has the "screw" type fuses. There are
> no GFI in my house. I only thing I had not done yet is truly track
> down where this wiring leds to next/from.

I would add GFI to the kitchen, bath and any outdoor outlets.

Are the wires copper or aluminum?

>
> Thanks for your help,
> Josh

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



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