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Electrical service panel door mismatch...how to fix? lgerhardx 03-03-2007
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Posted by Colbyt on March 3, 2007, 8:08 pm


>>> >The box itself takes some odd-looking, older toggle (push in, push
>>> >out) breakers, square in shape. The panel cover has the knockouts
>>> >knocked-out for the newer, wide rectangular breakers.
>>>


For the first poster.

This sounds like an old push-matic breaker box. Maybe with or without the -

There should be an identifying number somewhere in the box. Search online
for the cover.

The box is obsolete. The breakers were still available a few years ago.

If you can find a number, I will be happy to call the local distributor.

If you want me to do that, email is best. I bet you can figure it out. :)


Colbyt



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on March 3, 2007, 10:15 pm



> You may be flirting with disaster. Depending upon the size of the panel
> and the particulars of the rest of your service, it may be a three or four
> hour job, plus the materials. I'd call a few licensed electricians and get
> prices
>
>

What kind of disaster? He probably won't even have to strip a wire. While
I'm not a licensed electrician, I've done this a few times and they have all
passed inspection. Takes a few hours. Saves a few hundred $$$



Posted by RBM on March 3, 2007, 10:29 pm


He doesn't sound like someone with to much experience. My biggest concern
would be his ability to properly connect any Edison circuits in the panel.
In Pushmatic panels, the buss doesn't alternate vertically like it does in
new panels, so unless he understands the principal of the Edison circuit, he
could inadvertently connect one wrong and have a dangerous situation. There
are other not so obvious things like bonding jumpers, that he probably has
no idea what to do with. I'm not debating that this isn't rocket science,
but unless he's competent, he's probably better off having it done
professionally



>
>> You may be flirting with disaster. Depending upon the size of the panel
>> and the particulars of the rest of your service, it may be a three or
>> four hour job, plus the materials. I'd call a few licensed electricians
>> and get prices
>>
>>
>
> What kind of disaster? He probably won't even have to strip a wire.
> While I'm not a licensed electrician, I've done this a few times and they
> have all passed inspection. Takes a few hours. Saves a few hundred $$$
>



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on March 3, 2007, 10:58 pm


> He doesn't sound like someone with to much experience. My biggest concern
> would be his ability to properly connect any Edison circuits in the panel.
> In Pushmatic panels, the buss doesn't alternate vertically like it does in
> new panels, so unless he understands the principal of the Edison circuit,=
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> are other not so obvious things like bonding jumpers, that he probably has
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> but unless he's competent, he's probably better off having it done
> professionally
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>
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>
>
>
>
> >> You may be flirting with disaster. Depending upon the size of the panel
> >> and the particulars of the rest of your service, it may be a three or
> >> four hour job, plus the materials. I'd call a few licensed electricians
> >> and get prices
>
> > What kind of disaster? He probably won't even have to strip a wire.
> > While I'm not a licensed electrician, I've done this a few times and th=
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> > have all passed inspection. =A0Takes a few hours. =A0Saves a few hundre=
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main grounding mmay be lacking too.

What size is the panel.

If its a 60 amp might as well upgrade the service and replace the
meter can etc and grounds.

100 amp service is marginal decision if upgrade to 200 amps is
necessary.

but with such a old panel I bet its a 60 and really should be replaced
and upgraded


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on March 3, 2007, 7:46 pm



> How hard would it be for me to shut off the main breaker, have the
> power company pull the meter, and me swap meticulously from this old
> box to a new one, if I have to replace everything? Is it something
> that a somewhat-savvy individual can do and then get an electrician to
> inspect, or am I flirting with disaster?
>
> Thanks again for the input!

In some areas, it is possible to get a permit and do the work yourself.
Check with your inspector. It is really not all that difficult once the
power has been cut. Before you start, take a look at a book on basic
wiring. It is pretty much a matter of disconnecting all the wires, pulling
them out, replacing the box and breakers and one by one, putting all the
wires back. Before you buy anything, see if thee are breakers that are
doubled up with two sires going to them. Now is the time to separate all
that stuff.

Plan ahead, do it on a day with plenty of daylight and plenty of time.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/



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