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Electrician Costs? Installing a ceiling fan with new electrical box. Johndagolfer 06-25-2008
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Posted by Raleigh_3_Speed on June 26, 2008, 9:10 pm
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:36:58 -0400, John Grabowski wrote:
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> I need to hire an electrician to install 2 ceiling fans in my house.
>
> >> Master bedroom: There is access in a crawlspace for this room through
> >> the closet access panel
> >> Living room: There is no access here.
>
> >> Both rooms appear to not have any preexisting hook ups.
>
> >> Not including the fan how much should this job cost?
>
> >> For just the master I have been quoted 253 labor only and probbably
> >> much more for the downstairs.
>
> >> What do you guys think?
>
> > I'm assuming that there is no existing wiring in place. There are a few
> > variables to consider. Will the fans also have light kits? Do you want
> > a separate wall switch for the fan and one for the light kit? If so do
> > you want a dimmer for the light kit? Would you prefer to not have any
> > wall switches and just use the pull chains or a remote control for the
> > fan and light? I suggest that you go with wall switches as frequent
> > pulling on the chains can wear out those switches prematurely and to pay
> > someone to replace them might add up to the cost of the fan. The wall
> > switches are good if you decide to get rid of the fan in the future and
> > install a regular light fixture instead. If you decide to have one wall
> > switch for the fan and light kit you will be going forth and back
> > between the pull chain and wall switch to shut the light off and leave
> > the fan on.
>
> > Since there is no access for the living room, some holes will need to be
> > made in the ceiling and wall so that wiring can be installed. Will you
> > be making the necessary patches to these holes or do you want the
> > electrician to do it? Are you going to be responsible for repainting
> > the walls and ceiling after the holes have been patched or do you want
> > the contractor to do it?
>
> Hunter fans do have a wireless remote which controls fan, speed and
> light. If you can attach the fan to an existing box and use wireless,
> you're all set.
>
> --
>
> =================================================
> Franz Fripplfrappl

But the batteries tend to be expensive for some of the remotes.




Posted by evodawg on June 25, 2008, 2:31 pm
Johndagolfer@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need to hire an electrician to install 2 ceiling fans in my house.
>
> Master bedroom: There is access in a crawlspace for this room through
> the closet access panel
> Living room: There is no access here.
>
> Both rooms appear to not have any preexisting hook ups.
>
> Not including the fan how much should this job cost?
>
> For just the master I have been quoted 253 labor only and probbably
> much more for the downstairs.
>
> What do you guys think?

If I were doing this job and I do them all the time. 75.00 if ceiling is
prewired for a fan. If you don't have an outlet in the ceiling and you want
a wall switch 75.00 plus 100.00 for going into an attic and another 75.00
to wire switch, if I can get access without windowing drywall. Materials
are extra, 3 wire for separate controls, 2 switch's and or dimmer extra.
250.00 total labor material extra and this is without seeing the job.

The living room will be much more and without seeing it, I would not even
give an estimate. I have special tools to bore thru joists without doing
much drywall windowing but it still needs some and repair afterwards,
including drywall repair, texture, primer and paint.

I don't see this guy being that far off. Matter of fact he in my book is
right on.


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Posted by cshenk on June 25, 2008, 3:25 pm
"evodawg" wrote

> If I were doing this job and I do them all the time. 75.00 if ceiling is
> prewired for a fan. If you don't have an outlet in the ceiling and you
> want
> a wall switch 75.00 plus 100.00 for going into an attic and another 75.00

Ouch! Well, mine was a replacement fan set (Master Bedroom and Livingroom,
renters broke both). Pull switches on both as the existing outlets are in
use to control other things. He did go up in the attic though to make sure
the boxes were stable and added a kit stabilizer. No drywall work needed.

> The living room will be much more and without seeing it, I would not even
> give an estimate. I have special tools to bore thru joists without doing
> much drywall windowing but it still needs some and repair afterwards,
> including drywall repair, texture, primer and paint.

I suspect so, a difficult install.

I was thinking to add one in my enclosed porch but there is no access above
at all and the ceiling is plywood. There are electrical cables up there as
there are 4 lights (the type you tend to see in garages with flourescent
long bulbs). We need to recover financially from some other work first but
later we want those taken out and a nice ceiling fan put in. It will have
to be almost flush mounted to the ceiling as it's not a tall roof back
there. 7'8" I think. For that, I expect to pay 350$ as the electrician we
use already gave an estimate on it.

The other install was cheaper but part of why it was 50$ each was it was a
package deal with several other items. The total at the end was almost
1,000$ worth of labor on the work. For example, I have 19 outlets on my
back porch, all but 2 were 2 prong and interior style yet this is a merely
screened portion (the enclosure part is fully enclosed sunroom, an 11x13
section with a remaining 11x44 fully screened portion). Because of the
additional wiring he had to run for proper grounds etc, those were 75$ each.
10 of them were done and the rest capped safely off til later.

He also put in a new fixture for the laundry room to replace one gone bad
for 25$ (easy reach situation)

750$+100$+25$ was the main part. Capping off the ones that were unsafe was
the rest.

Grin, before you think this horrible, it wasnt. He did all this in about 6
hours. There was no cosmetic work needed on his end at all and the one long
wire he had to run along the porch, was all in a straight line (we took the
shingle facing off for him before he arrived and put it back up after he
left).

I'd call a near 1,000$ haul in a 6 hour day a decent wage. And he's GOOD.
Insured too.

Here's what's pending: 7 more outlets on the screened porch, 3 of which
require a second wire of some sort (not on same wall as others, inner wall).
1 light fixure in kitchen unsafe (capped off now, needs new light fixure
too, recessed sort), 3 outlets around the house that are capped off and not
in spots we actually need them just now (2 prong), add another garage light
set (he can reuse the ones in the enclosed sunroom), add an exterior outlet
on the front of the house to run Xmas lights, replace 3 exterior flood
lights at back of house, remove sunroom 'garage type' lights and put in
ceiling fan with light fixture if he can get at joists right from below and
if not, just replace existing set with something nicer or we accept a mild
modification with a faux beam to stabilize the fan which we have to put in
exactly according to his specs first then he anchors it to them. He specs
this at a total of 1,850$ labor and no cosmetic work on his end. He
estimates if he wants to put in a long day, 12 hours. If he doesnt feel
like a long day, he says he might take 2 to do it all in 6 hour groups ;-)

Price may go up a bit as inflation hits, but he was sane to mention that and
we expect it.




Posted by on June 25, 2008, 2:46 pm
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:48:46 -0700 (PDT), Johndagolfer@gmail.com
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I need to hire an electrician to install 2 ceiling fans in my house.
>
>Master bedroom: There is access in a crawlspace for this room through
>the closet access panel
>Living room: There is no access here.
>
>Both rooms appear to not have any preexisting hook ups.
>
>Not including the fan how much should this job cost?
>
>For just the master I have been quoted 253 labor only and probbably
>much more for the downstairs.
>
>What do you guys think?

It should cost at least ten times what you paid for your home.
Idiots like you, who ask prices online and dont even state where you
live, deserve to be over charged and ripped off for being an idiot.
I hope you get taken and end up paying way too much.

Posted by Bobo on June 25, 2008, 9:32 pm
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:48:46 -0700 (PDT), Johndagolfer@gmail.com
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I need to hire an electrician to install 2 ceiling fans in my house.
>
>Master bedroom: There is access in a crawlspace for this room through
>the closet access panel
>Living room: There is no access here.
>
>Both rooms appear to not have any preexisting hook ups.
>
>Not including the fan how much should this job cost?
>
>For just the master I have been quoted 253 labor only and probbably
>much more for the downstairs.
>
>What do you guys think?


I just put one in my house. I've done several before as well. The one
I just did is in an attic with lousy access and blown in insulatrion
to crawl through. It's a mess to do and a killer job if the attic is
hot. I'd do the one in your living room prior to a paint job as it's
hard to cover the holes if the paint is different.


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