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Electrician Help - Wiring for a Stove/Range johnnymo 11-02-2006
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Posted by johnnymo on November 2, 2006, 2:34 pm



Hello -

I am renovating an older house and have decided to relocate the stove
to the other side of the kitchen. The current wire that was in place
was really short and close to the electrical box and all corroded from
age. The wire was a think 6 gauge wire I think, with a red and black
wire and then copper twisted around the red and black wire all within a
mesh material.

I went to the store the other day to buy a replacement wire and bought
a 6 gauge 2 wire piece thinking that the twisted copper was the ground,
but after closer analysis, I don't think it was a ground wire at all.
Is this possible? I think the wire had a common (twisted wire) and two
hot wires. Should I have bought the 6 gauge 3 wire instead?

Do oven lines have a ground? Or do they now and didn't back then? Not a
professional as you can probabley tell.

Thanks...


Posted by mike on November 2, 2006, 2:43 pm


Modern ranges will need:

1) A black +120V line

2) A red -120V line (red to black gives the 240V spread)

3) A white neutral line (to run items that need less voltage [120])

4) A green grounding line in case something goes wrong, it will cause
stray voltage to flow freely and safely to the earth and cause the
breaker to trip.

I recommend you get a few books on wiring from your library and perhaps
a book or booklet on wiring principles from a hardware store or online.
They're worth it and they'll pay for themself in no time and help keep
you and your house safe.


Posted by johnnymo on November 2, 2006, 2:54 pm



Thanks Mike. I have a couple sources, but yea, I need an updated book
(with pictures...haha) to go by. I am not use to seeing wire that old I
guess. I got a little confused.

So....I guess I should have bought the 6-3 wire. Darn....


Posted by Toller on November 2, 2006, 3:16 pm



>
> Hello -
>
> I am renovating an older house and have decided to relocate the stove
> to the other side of the kitchen. The current wire that was in place
> was really short and close to the electrical box and all corroded from
> age. The wire was a think 6 gauge wire I think, with a red and black
> wire and then copper twisted around the red and black wire all within a
> mesh material.
>
> I went to the store the other day to buy a replacement wire and bought
> a 6 gauge 2 wire piece thinking that the twisted copper was the ground,
> but after closer analysis, I don't think it was a ground wire at all.
> Is this possible? I think the wire had a common (twisted wire) and two
> hot wires. Should I have bought the 6 gauge 3 wire instead?
>
> Do oven lines have a ground? Or do they now and didn't back then? Not a
> professional as you can probabley tell.
>
Old oven lines did not have a ground, they had a "uninsulated neutral" which
served as both the neutral and the ground. Existing wiring is
grandfathered, but new wiring must have an insulated neutral and a ground.
You cannot legally install your 6/2.



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 2, 2006, 3:44 pm


upgrade to 6 3 with ground current code safer and better


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