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Posted by miamicuse on June 18, 2006, 6:29 pm
What a Father's day surprise!
I opened my garage door today to do some yard work, shouldn't be more than
half an hour total, and suddenly I heard a loud "clunk"...I went back to the
garage and I have a full can of shellac now laying on the floor. It was on
the top shelf of my rack and I have no idea how it fell, could be a cat or
squirrel when inside the garage while it was opened...don't know. All I
know is when it tumbled down, it splashed on my walls, shelves, tools, tiled
floor, some older furniture near by and everything on my shelves and made a
huge mess and a strong odor.
It dries quick and I was not able to clean things off fast enough before it.
I have been working at it for the last four hours and it's not getting
anywhere. I tried water, alcohol, mineral spirits and other solvents. Not
sure if any of it combined with Shellac will be poisonous, but the mess is
not going away. It even stained outside of my garage where the concrete
driveway was about four feet of it have spots all over. Even metal brush
does not get this stuff off. I am giving up and thinking I should just go
to a bar and get a few beers instead of going to Home Depot.
Any advise if there are any solvent I can use?
MC
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Posted by professorpaul on June 18, 2006, 6:34 pm
Well, shellac is soluable in alcohol. Get a gallon of that, open the
garage doors, and go to it. You might also try a power washer. That
will pull paint off, for sure!
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Posted by Doug Miller on June 18, 2006, 6:53 pm
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>It dries quick and I was not able to clean things off fast enough before it.
>I have been working at it for the last four hours and it's not getting
>anywhere. I tried water, alcohol, mineral spirits and other solvents.
Alcohol -- but not rubbing alcohol from the drugstore (too much water in
that). You want denatured alcohol (probably a gallon can) from Home Depot,
Lowe's, or some place like that -- it's pure alcohol.
> Not
>sure if any of it combined with Shellac will be poisonous,
Nope. Shellac is non-toxic. It's the classic kid-safe finish for baby toys,
cribs, etc.
The *alcohol* is another story, though. The alcohol used to dissolve shellac
is the same alcohol that's in adult beverages, and you *can* become
intoxicated from breathing the fumes. Use plenty of ventilation, and a
chemical filter respirator if you have one -- and don't drive.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
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Posted by Nonnymus on June 18, 2006, 6:59 pm
Doug Miller wrote:
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> The *alcohol* is another story, though. The alcohol used to dissolve shellac
> is the same alcohol that's in adult beverages, and you *can* become
> intoxicated from breathing the fumes. Use plenty of ventilation, and a
> chemical filter respirator if you have one -- and don't drive.
>
You might want to mention that the ethanol is "denatured" by
adding in just enough methanol to make it poisonous to drink.
I agree that the fumes can get to you, but I don't know if
the fumes of denatured alcohol are as toxic as the liquid.
Nonnymus
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Posted by mm on June 18, 2006, 9:34 pm
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:53:20 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>
>>
>>It dries quick and I was not able to clean things off fast enough before it.
>>I have been working at it for the last four hours and it's not getting
>>anywhere. I tried water, alcohol, mineral spirits and other solvents.
>
>Alcohol -- but not rubbing alcohol from the drugstore (too much water in
>that). You want denatured alcohol (probably a gallon can) from Home Depot,
>Lowe's, or some place like that -- it's pure alcohol.
>
>> Not
>>sure if any of it combined with Shellac will be poisonous,
>
>Nope. Shellac is non-toxic. It's the classic kid-safe finish for baby toys,
>cribs, etc.
>
>The *alcohol* is another story, though. The alcohol used to dissolve shellac
>is the same alcohol that's in adult beverages, and you *can* become
NO IT'S NOT THE SAME, and the ALCOHOL THAT YOU BUY IN GALLONS WILL
KILL YOU, or BLIND YOU FIRST.
AT LEAST ACCORDING TO MY PH.D. IN BIOLOGY ROOMMATE.
HE TOLD ME THAT THE ONLY THING SAFE WAS CHEMICAL GRADE ALCOHOL, WHICH
IS 100% PURE AND VERY EXPENSIVE, AND SOLD MOSTLY TO LABORATORIES, FROM
LABORATORY SUPPLY COMPANIES.
THAT DIDN'T STOP HIM FROM ONCE OR TWICE SWIPING A QUART BOTTLE FROM
THE CHEM LAB to make punch for our parties, but other than smoking pot
a bit that's the only illegal thing I think he ever did, and he
wouldn't have stolen this stuff if he could have bought it at a
reasonable price.
Rubbing alcohol is something like 70% water, and there is another
comon version that has less waterthat that, but the safe stuff has no
water or next to no water.
>intoxicated from breathing the fumes. Use plenty of ventilation, and a
>chemical filter respirator if you have one -- and don't drive.
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