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Exploding Broiler Element jeffcpix@yahoo.com 02-05-2007
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Posted by jeffcpix@yahoo.com on February 5, 2007, 5:21 am


My Whirlpool range's broiler element exploded.
The range is 4 years old and has had very little use.
I was baking a pizza and decided to brown the top so I turned on the
broiler.
I left the oven door ajar and within 30 seconds there was a loud bang,
a flash
of light and a portion of the element was burning brightly (like a
welding rod).
It appeared that the element was melting as burning bits of it
dripped onto the
floor of the oven. I turned off the breaker and the fire went out.

The service tech changed the element (which showed that indeed, the
element
had melted almost to its core) but the element won't heat up. He
removed the
back cover of the range and visually examined the circuit board. There
was no
evidence of damage. The display panel works, the oven element works,
the surface burners work; when set to broil, the display shows 500
but
the element doesn't heat up.

The service company, of course, doesn't cover circuit boards and they
want $250 for the part.
#1. Shouldn't the breaker have tripped?
#2. Shouldn't the display indicate a malfunction?
#3. Whirlpool 800 number wait time is always at least 30 minutes.
#4. If it's a burnt out component on the board, shouldn't I be able to
see
some indication -- such as a burn mark.

The range still works fine except for the broiler.
Thanks.


Posted by on February 5, 2007, 6:58 am


On 5 Feb 2007 02:21:05 -0800, "jeffcpix@yahoo.com"

>My Whirlpool range's broiler element exploded.
>The range is 4 years old and has had very little use.
>I was baking a pizza and decided to brown the top so I turned on the
>broiler.
>I left the oven door ajar and within 30 seconds there was a loud bang,
>a flash
>of light and a portion of the element was burning brightly (like a
>welding rod).
> It appeared that the element was melting as burning bits of it
>dripped onto the
> floor of the oven. I turned off the breaker and the fire went out.
>
>The service tech changed the element (which showed that indeed, the
>element
>had melted almost to its core) but the element won't heat up. He
>removed the
>back cover of the range and visually examined the circuit board. There
>was no
>evidence of damage. The display panel works, the oven element works,
>the surface burners work; when set to broil, the display shows 500
>but
>the element doesn't heat up.
>
>The service company, of course, doesn't cover circuit boards and they
>want $250 for the part.
>#1. Shouldn't the breaker have tripped?
>#2. Shouldn't the display indicate a malfunction?
>#3. Whirlpool 800 number wait time is always at least 30 minutes.
>#4. If it's a burnt out component on the board, shouldn't I be able to
>see
>some indication -- such as a burn mark.
>
>The range still works fine except for the broiler.
>Thanks.

How was the pizza with all the metal welded to it?
I'd call a lawyer and clain permanent health effects from eating the
metal in the pizza. Then sue them for the medical bills and the price
of the pizza. If this happened during the Superbowl, I'd sue for an
additional $50,000 for loss of entertainment value, plus demand they
send you some cooked pizzas, a DVD of the Superbowl, and enough beer
to get you and all your friends drunk. (And let them know you have
500 friends). When you win the case, toss out that range and get a
gas one. Electric ones suck.

I hope this helps. Now back to my beer drinking. Continued (After the
Superbowl) drinking till the cows come home or till I run out of beer.
whichever happens first.

By the way..... Why do they keep talking about ABs on TV? Actually,
what the hell are Abs?

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on February 5, 2007, 7:33 am


e:
> My Whirlpool range's broiler element exploded.
> The range is 4 years old and has had very little use.
> I was baking a pizza and decided to brown the top so I turned on the
> broiler.
> I left the oven door ajar and within 30 seconds there was a loud bang,
> a flash
> of light and a portion of the =A0element was burning brightly (like a
> welding rod).
> =A0It appeared that the element was melting as burning bits of it
> dripped onto the
> =A0floor of the oven. I turned off the breaker and the fire went out.
>
> The service tech changed the element (which showed that indeed, the
> element
> had melted almost to its core) but the element won't heat up. He
> removed the
> back cover of the range and visually examined the circuit board. There
> was no
> evidence of damage. The display panel works, the oven element works,
> the surface burners work; =A0when set to broil, the display shows 500
> but
> the element doesn't heat up.
>
> The service company, of course, doesn't cover circuit boards and they
> want $250 for the part.
> #1. Shouldn't the breaker have tripped?
> #2. Shouldn't the display indicate a malfunction?
> #3. Whirlpool 800 number wait time is always at least 30 minutes.
> #4. If it's a burnt out component on the board, shouldn't I be able to
> see
> some indication -- such as a burn mark.
>
> The range still works fine except for the broiler.
> Thanks.

#1 no not necessarily the current to fry the element is less than the
breakers trip current.

#2 no not necessarily, the element fried and took out the board fast

#3 you can call them but it probably wouldnt help since the rnge is 4
years old

#4 No the boards built today have componnts that can be damaged
easily, by say a power line surge. completely invisible. The real test
is if a new board fixes it.

Any chance a pan or lid bumped the element somehow and led o the
damage?

If you still want a broiler you will need a new board.

solid state stuff is wonderful till it breaks


Posted by George E. Cawthon on February 5, 2007, 4:45 pm


hallerb@aol.com wrote:
>> My Whirlpool range's broiler element exploded.
>> The range is 4 years old and has had very little use.
>> I was baking a pizza and decided to brown the top so I turned on the
>> broiler.
>> I left the oven door ajar and within 30 seconds there was a loud bang,
>> a flash
>> of light and a portion of the �element was burning brightly (like a
>> welding rod).
>> �It appeared that the element was melting as burning bits of it
>> dripped onto the
>> �floor of the oven. I turned off the breaker and the fire went out.
>>
>> The service tech changed the element (which showed that indeed, the
>> element
>> had melted almost to its core) but the element won't heat up. He
>> removed the
>> back cover of the range and visually examined the circuit board. There
>> was no
>> evidence of damage. The display panel works, the oven element works,
>> the surface burners work; �when set to broil, the display shows 500
>> but
>> the element doesn't heat up.
>>
>> The service company, of course, doesn't cover circuit boards and they
>> want $250 for the part.
>> #1. Shouldn't the breaker have tripped?
>> #2. Shouldn't the display indicate a malfunction?
>> #3. Whirlpool 800 number wait time is always at least 30 minutes.
>> #4. If it's a burnt out component on the board, shouldn't I be able to
>> see
>> some indication -- such as a burn mark.
>>
>> The range still works fine except for the broiler.
>> Thanks.
>
> #1 no not necessarily the current to fry the element is less than the
> breakers trip current.
>
> #2 no not necessarily, the element fried and took out the board fast
>
> #3 you can call them but it probably wouldnt help since the rnge is 4
> years old
>
> #4 No the boards built today have componnts that can be damaged
> easily, by say a power line surge. completely invisible. The real test
> is if a new board fixes it.
>
> Any chance a pan or lid bumped the element somehow and led o the
> damage?
>
> If you still want a broiler you will need a new board.
>
> solid state stuff is wonderful till it breaks
>
Personally, I can't imagine what use a solid state
circuit board is in an electric oven. Regular
mechanical switches, clocks, and thermostat.
Nobody (almost nobody) ever uses the clock so what
need is there for a circuit board?

Posted by John Gilmer on February 5, 2007, 7:44 pm




> Personally, I can't imagine what use a solid state
> circuit board is in an electric oven. Regular
> mechanical switches, clocks, and thermostat.
> Nobody (almost nobody) ever uses the clock so what
> need is there for a circuit board?

Once you design it so that the elements are controlled by the "circuit
board" all kinds of functions become a whole lot less expensive.
Controlling the self-cleaning feature uses the same temperature sensor
that's already in place. The only "extra" is a small electro-magnet and a
switch to keep the oven locked.

I strongly suspect that with a reasonable run, it's as cheap to make a stove
with the timer and electronics as a more electro-mechanical self-cleaning
over.

The only problem is that when the board goes, it's gone.

I suppose it's still possible to get a truly "basic" stove with
electro-mechnical thermostat and no self-cleaning features. But once you
toss in the self-cleaning features the electronics is not much more
expensive than basic electro-mechanical controls and you get the timer
function (and clock) for only a little more cost.

I still remember the old mechanical timers. It always seemed that by the
time I got around to actually using it, the timer had worn out!



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