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Posted by RBM on June 23, 2007, 7:28 am
Some fixtures have an integral junction box. For this type of fixture, you
would just run a cable through the siding and into a knockout in the back of
the fixture's junction box
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:14:45 -0400, "RBM" <rbm2(remove
> this)@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>Yes they are necessary. If you just had a cable sticking through the
>>siding,
>>and attached it to a fixture, then screwed the fixture to the siding, a
>>poor
>>connection against the siding could cause a fire
>
> This is really interesting. Dang.
>
> The scaredy-cat rep from the property management company talked us
> into needing scare-away the criminal lights on the ends of the
> townhouse buildings, and they had an electric company in business for
> 50 years iirc, who came out and mounted a rectangular flood to the
> outside of my attic, no box at all.
>
> They had an apprentice or some kind of novice do the connection inside
> the attic, but I thought they had two guys outside. I assumed one was
> a real electrician. And whoever made up the work order was likely
> told or could have found out by calling and asking that there had
> never been a light on this wall before.
>
> 7 years later the bulb needed replacing (was interfering with my AM
> radio) and they changed the whole fixture for a both solar and
> infrared controlled one, without saying a word about no box.
>
> And I think they changed the fixture a second time, or just screwed it
> back on, about 7 years after that, when the screws ripped out of the
> t111 and the fixture was hanging from the Romex and again they just
> put it back. Might or might not be a different electrician by now. No
> box on the outside, no box on the inside.
>
> The new fixture doesn't work right and I have to call them.
>
> (The first one went on all the time at night, and when the bulb was
> bad interfered with my radio. This last one stays on dim all the time
> at night and interferes with the radio, and then goes to high if
> anyone walks by. (No one ever does.) The one at my neighor's, facing
> me, put up for the first time only a month later than my last one,
> doesn't light up at all unless someone walks by, and then it's at full
> brightness. That's what I want.)
>
> To Cubby, in my case there is no "inside the wall" There is a sheet
> of something on the inside covered by a sheet of T-111 on the outside.
> Sparks would hit the t111 on the outside, or go through the hole to
> the inside where they would fall towards the empty carboard boxes I
> have there, 4 feet below the hole, or the pink insulation, 6 feet
> below the hole.
>
>
> I guess I should have thought about this years ago.
>
> I let them come in the house the first time, but I don't really want
> that to happen this time. And I don't want the box on the outside.
>
> Can I do the box myself on the inside without making the hole in the
> siding bigger? It's about 2 inches now.
>
>
>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Regarding exterior lights, e.g., over a garage:
>>> Also, a xenon light fixture over a Deck:
>>>
>>> All these exterior light fixturescome with a built in, integral, metal
>>> base of course, that is quite adequate to cover up the wire nuts.
>>>
>>> Question: is it legal to mount them right against the exterior
>>> clapboards
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Or, must a "J Box" (I think this is what they are called perhaps ?) be
>>> mounted between the base and the wood
>>> to be legal ? Why ?
>>>
>>> The boxes I'm thinking about are those typical Bell brand Aluminum boxes
>>> made for outside usage.
>>>
>>> Are they "really" necessary ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>>>
>>
>
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