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Posted by Oscar_Lives on December 7, 2005, 7:22 am
The little forger has it right this time. Look at the headers. This ain't
me.
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>> .p.j.m@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>>wrote:
>>>>PJM, you sure ar one hell of a popular guy here arn't you!
>>> Not among spammers, flooders, and asshole in general, no.
>> I think there's a fairly large concensus of opinion that indeed you
>> are not an asshole in general, but rather a very very special kind of
>> asshole. A field of one.
> Oh yes, and did I mention I love assholes? And I stay bent over all the
> time fellas ;)
> MOMMY MOMMY, look at the headers look at the headers. How do you do that
> anyway?
>
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Posted by nicksanspam on December 7, 2005, 7:44 am
With a 125K Btu/gallon high heating value and a 10,000 hour engine lifetime,
Honda EU2000 cogen looks less economical: if we burn 1.08 gallons of gasoline
with a fuel value of 135K Btu in 4 hours at the 1600 W rated load and make
6.4 kWh (21.8K Btu) of electricity and 113.2K Btu of heat (another 33.2 kWh,
ie 39.6 kWh total) and the heat replaces electric resistance and the Honda
costs $899 (mayberrys.com) and wear adds $0.09/h, ie 5.6 cents/kWh, this kind
of cogen only seems to make sense at an off-road gas price of $1.75/gallon if
electricity costs more than 100x$1.75/39.6+5.6 = 10.7 cents/kWh.
Nick
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Posted by Bughunter on December 7, 2005, 9:06 am
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> With a 125K Btu/gallon high heating value and a 10,000 hour engine
> lifetime,
> Honda EU2000 cogen looks less economical: if we burn 1.08 gallons of
> gasoline
> with a fuel value of 135K Btu in 4 hours at the 1600 W rated load and make
> 6.4 kWh (21.8K Btu) of electricity and 113.2K Btu of heat (another 33.2
> kWh,
> ie 39.6 kWh total) and the heat replaces electric resistance and the Honda
> costs $899 (mayberrys.com) and wear adds $0.09/h, ie 5.6 cents/kWh, this
> kind
> of cogen only seems to make sense at an off-road gas price of $1.75/gallon
> if
> electricity costs more than 100x$1.75/39.6+5.6 = 10.7 cents/kWh.
> Nick
Where can one buy "off-road" gasoline? I have seen off-road diesel for sale,
but never off road gasoline. I'd love to avoid road tax for gas that I buy
for my generator and boats.
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Posted by Vaughn Simon on December 7, 2005, 12:11 pm
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> Where can one buy "off-road" gasoline? I have seen off-road diesel for
> sale, but never off road gasoline. I'd love to avoid road tax for gas that
> I buy for my generator and boats.
That answer varies depending on your state/county. Talk to a fuel
wholesaler. Last I heard, in my state you have to request a refund from the
state periodically.
Vaughn
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Posted by Bughunter on December 7, 2005, 7:15 pm
>> Where can one buy "off-road" gasoline? I have seen off-road diesel for
>> sale, but never off road gasoline. I'd love to avoid road tax for gas
>> that I buy for my generator and boats.
> That answer varies depending on your state/county. Talk to a fuel
> wholesaler. Last I heard, in my state you have to request a refund from
> the state periodically.
> Vaughn
I'm in New Hampshire, USA.
I don't know if it would be worth trying to deal with the state bureaucracy
for what little I use. With the PV panels working, I burned something like 9
gallons of gas in the generator over last summer. The boat ran through about
one 27 gallon tank. The ATV's a couple tanks, and the snowmobiles a few
tanks. I don't want to store a lot, and I'd guess a wholesaler would not
even want to talk about the small quantities I use off road.
I'll have to ask around and what the rules are for NH.
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>>>wrote:
>>>>PJM, you sure ar one hell of a popular guy here arn't you!
>>> Not among spammers, flooders, and asshole in general, no.
>> I think there's a fairly large concensus of opinion that indeed you
>> are not an asshole in general, but rather a very very special kind of
>> asshole. A field of one.
> Oh yes, and did I mention I love assholes? And I stay bent over all the
> time fellas ;)
> MOMMY MOMMY, look at the headers look at the headers. How do you do that
> anyway?
>