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FURNACE FILTERS @J 08-05-2007
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Posted by on August 5, 2007, 4:13 pm

Most of my retailers have stopped stocking
fiberglas furnace filters.
All they carry is the new pleated ( hypo-allergenic? ) filters

Is it a drop-in replacement for all furnaces ?

I know the extra filtering cuts down on air flow.
Doesn't it put additional load on the furnace fan motor ?
( I haven't seen any cautions on the package )

????
<rj>

Posted by Big_Jake on August 5, 2007, 4:52 pm
> Most of my retailers have stopped stocking
> fiberglas furnace filters.
> All they carry is the new pleated ( hypo-allergenic? ) filters

Don't know where you live, but Menards, Lowe's, and Home Depot all
still carry regular filters here.

> Is it a drop-in replacement for all furnaces ?

I don't understand that question.

> I know the extra filtering cuts down on air flow.
> Doesn't it put additional load on the furnace fan motor ?

Yep. Especially during the AC season where the blower typically runs
at a higher speed.

JK





Posted by Art on August 5, 2007, 6:11 pm
The pleated filters are much better and are available in the same size as
the cheap fiberglass filters. Obviously they have to be changed more often
but you will see less dust in the house particularly if you go with one of
the expensive Filtrete brand filters. If you have a old marginal blower
that barely moves enuf air then you should probably go with a filter that
does not filter as well as the Filtrete ultra but most newer systems have
strong blowers with plenty of capacity. Sometimes they have multispeeds and
your may or may not be set to run at the optimal speed for a quality filter.



>
> Most of my retailers have stopped stocking
> fiberglas furnace filters.
> All they carry is the new pleated ( hypo-allergenic? ) filters
>
> Is it a drop-in replacement for all furnaces ?
>
> I know the extra filtering cuts down on air flow.
> Doesn't it put additional load on the furnace fan motor ?
> ( I haven't seen any cautions on the package )
>
> ????
> <rj>



Posted by on August 6, 2007, 12:07 am

> The pleated filters are much better and are available in the same size as
> the cheap fiberglass filters. Obviously they have to be changed more
often
> but you will see less dust in the house particularly if you go with one of
> the expensive Filtrete brand filters. If you have a old marginal blower
> that barely moves enuf air then you should probably go with a filter that
> does not filter as well as the Filtrete ultra but most newer systems have
> strong blowers with plenty of capacity. Sometimes they have multispeeds
and
> your may or may not be set to run at the optimal speed for a quality
filter.


Just because you have a new furnace with a blower that moves more air means
nothing.

With today's high efficient furnaces you have a few things happening.

#1 high efficient furnaces have thinner heat exchangers to transfer the heat
faster. So the equipment requires more air-flow to maintain a proper
temperature rise across the heat exchanger. This not only cools the heat
exchanger, but allows the unit to transfer more heat into the conditioned
space by cooling down the flu gases. <<<End result - more airflow>>>

#2 the equipment manufactures are concerned about cost per unit. In order to
make their products cheaper, they use less materials/metal. This thinner
heat exchanger, requires a lower temperature rise than the older models. If
this is compromised, you end up with a cracked heat exchanger that requires
it to be replaced (either with a new heat exchanger or a new furnace).
<<<End result - more airflow>>>

#3 the blowers are manufactured to operate with-in a range of static
pressure. Most units today are manufactured with a maximum TESP (total
external static pressure) of .5" wc. <<<End result - less restrictive HVAC
components>>>

Now look at the filter you're about to use... many are adding .15-.25" wc or
more to the total. So when you add in the evaporator coil, supply/return
ducting, supply/return grills, you're above the manufacture's
specifications!

If you look at the data, you're needing more airflow with less restrictions.
This is why most older duct systems require modifications when installing
new equipment. If your concern is air filtration, you should look into a
media type filter. They're less restrictive since they have much more media
material.

BTW, using a highly restrictive filter is the quickest way to kill your HVAC
system!

***This is a partial list of failures due to high temperature and high
static pressures!
***This doesn't even address the issues that the restrictive filters have on
a cooling system!



Posted by Art on August 6, 2007, 1:32 am
>
>> The pleated filters are much better and are available in the same size as
>> the cheap fiberglass filters. Obviously they have to be changed more
> often
>> but you will see less dust in the house particularly if you go with one
>> of
>> the expensive Filtrete brand filters. If you have a old marginal blower
>> that barely moves enuf air then you should probably go with a filter that
>> does not filter as well as the Filtrete ultra but most newer systems have
>> strong blowers with plenty of capacity. Sometimes they have multispeeds
> and
>> your may or may not be set to run at the optimal speed for a quality
> filter.
>
>
> Just because you have a new furnace with a blower that moves more air
> means
> nothing.
>
> With today's high efficient furnaces you have a few things happening.
>
> #1 high efficient furnaces have thinner heat exchangers to transfer the
> heat
> faster. So the equipment requires more air-flow to maintain a proper
> temperature rise across the heat exchanger. This not only cools the heat
> exchanger, but allows the unit to transfer more heat into the conditioned
> space by cooling down the flu gases. <<<End result - more airflow>>>
>
> #2 the equipment manufactures are concerned about cost per unit. In order
> to
> make their products cheaper, they use less materials/metal. This thinner
> heat exchanger, requires a lower temperature rise than the older models.
> If
> this is compromised, you end up with a cracked heat exchanger that
> requires
> it to be replaced (either with a new heat exchanger or a new furnace).
> <<<End result - more airflow>>>
>
> #3 the blowers are manufactured to operate with-in a range of static
> pressure. Most units today are manufactured with a maximum TESP (total
> external static pressure) of .5" wc. <<<End result - less restrictive HVAC
> components>>>
>
> Now look at the filter you're about to use... many are adding .15-.25" wc
> or
> more to the total. So when you add in the evaporator coil, supply/return
> ducting, supply/return grills, you're above the manufacture's
> specifications!
>
> If you look at the data, you're needing more airflow with less
> restrictions.
> This is why most older duct systems require modifications when installing
> new equipment. If your concern is air filtration, you should look into a
> media type filter. They're less restrictive since they have much more
> media
> material.
>
> BTW, using a highly restrictive filter is the quickest way to kill your
> HVAC
> system!
>
> ***This is a partial list of failures due to high temperature and high
> static pressures!
> ***This doesn't even address the issues that the restrictive filters have
> on
> a cooling system!
>

I've been using Filtrete Ultra filters in the 3 systems in my 10 year old
house for 10 years. Absolutely no problems during that time. According to
Consumer Reports, the Ultra has fair air flow.



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