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Fence building help Matthew Reed 07-08-2006
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Posted by Matthew Reed on July 8, 2006, 2:56 am
I'm getting ready to build a fence around my yard. I'm looking for
advice/resources about how to sink the fence posts in the ground, IE, how
deep, use sand, gravel, cement, etc. Where to go for help?



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Posted by Main Man on July 8, 2006, 3:42 am
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Matthew Reed wrote:
> I'm getting ready to build a fence around my yard. I'm looking for
> advice/resources about how to sink the fence posts in the ground, IE, how
> deep, use sand, gravel, cement, etc. Where to go for help?


Posted by Richard Thoms on July 8, 2006, 3:43 am
Matthew Reed wrote:
> I'm getting ready to build a fence around my yard. I'm looking for
> advice/resources about how to sink the fence posts in the ground, IE, how
> deep, use sand, gravel, cement, etc. Where to go for help?

Depends on lots of factors.

What type of fence?
4' tall chain link takes less load than 6' solid wood privacy fence.

What's the climate?
Further north has more problems with frost heave

What's the soil type?
Sandy soil will give more than clay soil.

A good rule of thumb is 2' deep and 3x diameter of post. Add/subtract
to accomodate for the above factors.

Checkout http://www.hometime.com/Howto/projects/fence.htm for more info.

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Posted by Matthew Reed on July 8, 2006, 3:41 pm

> Matthew Reed wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to build a fence around my yard. I'm looking for
>> advice/resources about how to sink the fence posts in the ground, IE, how
>> deep, use sand, gravel, cement, etc. Where to go for help?
>
> Depends on lots of factors.
>
> What type of fence?
> 4' tall chain link takes less load than 6' solid wood privacy fence.
>
> What's the climate?
> Further north has more problems with frost heave
>
> What's the soil type?
> Sandy soil will give more than clay soil.
>
> A good rule of thumb is 2' deep and 3x diameter of post. Add/subtract to
> accomodate for the above factors.
>
> Checkout http://www.hometime.com/Howto/projects/fence.htm for more info.
>

Wood panel fence, 6' high. I'm using 4x4x8 posts, pressure treated, ground
contact. It looks like I should dig a 12" hole 2 feet deep, place posts,
fill with concrete.

Any suggestions on whether I should go 8' apart versus 6'? 6' I understand
gives stronger fences, is 8' apart good enough? Oh, I live in Lebanon,
Oregon, mid Willamette Valley. It barely freezes in the winter, and snow is
quite rare. Soil is fairly rich loam, this area used to be river bottom.
Ground water level in winter rises to about 6' or so - enough that every 10
years or so our basements will start to take on water because of the high
ground water. A month or so ago, the water in my well was at 9'. I'm going
to take a reading today and see where it is.



Posted by HeyBub on July 9, 2006, 1:55 pm
Matthew Reed wrote:
>
> Any suggestions on whether I should go 8' apart versus 6'? 6' I
> understand gives stronger fences, is 8' apart good enough?

8' obviously requires less work.

6' is sturdier.

Consider the wind.

If you go with 8', pay particular attention to sagging. I'd put diagonal
2x4s to brace the top runner. Even so, the diagonal has to be cheaper and
easier than 25% more posts.

Also, for me, I'd use metal posts. Cheaper, smaller holes to dig, less
concrete, last longer, easier to replace, variety of brackets to attach
various things.

One more trick: Buy the pickets and store them in your garage for a couple
of months. Allow for plenty of air circulation to dry them out (use a fan).
If you install them fresh-from-the-store, when they DO dry you'll have 1/4"
(or more) gaps.



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