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Fence question Percival P. Cassidy 03-22-2007
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Posted by mm on March 23, 2007, 4:40 am


On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:47:18 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"

>I am planning to install a fence that will attach to brickwork at one
>end, but I am not sure what is the best way to attach it. The options I
>see are:

When I said "right next" I meant within a half inch, maybe within a
quarter inch, iirc, but I don't know why it would have to be that
close. The fence was built before I bought the house. I've repaired
my neighbor's fence, and his posts are square, by a different company,
and I'm pretty sure that his post is not attached to his house either.

Posted by HeyBub on March 23, 2007, 8:04 am


Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> I am planning to install a fence that will attach to brickwork at one
> end, but I am not sure what is the best way to attach it. The options
> I see are:
>
> 1. Use a regular 4x4 fence post attached to the wall;
>
> 2. Use a skinnier piece of wood attached to the wall;
>
> (And in the two cases above, which is the best way to attach the wood
> to the brick wall? Adhesive or bolts/screws?)
>
> 3. Attach the recommended metal brackets directly to the brick wall --
> presumably with bolts or screws.
>
> Have I missed anything?
>
> What are the pros and cons of each method?

If the brickwork is super-sturdy, I'd attach to that. I have a wooden fence
attached to the brickwork of the garage. Absent a sound brick fence...

It's likely you won't be able to place a post right next to the brick fence
because the brick fence may have a substantial below-ground foundation. So,
put the final post one or two feet from the brick fence and extend the
pickets with suitable bracing until they butt against the brick.



Posted by Percival P. Cassidy on March 23, 2007, 10:18 am


On 03/22/07 10:47 pm I wrote:

> I am planning to install a fence that will attach to brickwork at one
> end, but I am not sure what is the best way to attach it. The options I
> see are:
>
> 1. Use a regular 4x4 fence post attached to the wall;
>
> 2. Use a skinnier piece of wood attached to the wall;
>
> (And in the two cases above, which is the best way to attach the wood to
> the brick wall? Adhesive or bolts/screws?)
>
> 3. Attach the recommended metal brackets directly to the brick wall --
> presumably with bolts or screws.
>
> Have I missed anything?
>
> What are the pros and cons of each method?


1. The brickwork in question is what I would have called the
"chimney-breast," but I see that that term is used primarily of
brickwork that projects *into* the room. This is brickwork projecting
out from the wall. The idea is to have an enclosed area behind this to
prevent unauthorized access to an amateur radio antenna tower and a
generator.

2. There is a French drain, so there is no way to install a regular
in-ground fence post at that end.

From the responses already given, it seems that the best thing might be
to put a regular fence post as close as possible to the brickwork --
about 2ft out -- with the short fence panel between that post and the
brickwork not needing a whole lot of support at the chimney end. But
I'll have to think about the aesthetic aspect.

Perce

Posted by mm on March 23, 2007, 1:59 pm


On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:17:07 -0400, "Joseph Meehan"

>
> You did not say if the brick work is a brick facing or a structural
>brick. If it is a facing I would not really like the idea of trying to tie
>in the fence. Even if it were structural brick I would not do it that way.
>In fact I was faced with that problem and I did not do it that way. I just
>placed the post close to but not touching the brick. That post and the
>brick and the fence are still there 40 years later. I have moved but the
>fence has not.

If it were a really good fence, it would have followed you to your new
home.

There is not only the issue of weathering, but if something big bumps
into the fence, it can take part of the brickwork down too.

Posted by aemeijers on March 23, 2007, 10:46 pm



> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:17:07 -0400, "Joseph Meehan"
>
>>
>> You did not say if the brick work is a brick facing or a structural
>>brick. If it is a facing I would not really like the idea of trying to
>>tie
>>in the fence. Even if it were structural brick I would not do it that
>>way.
>>In fact I was faced with that problem and I did not do it that way. I
>>just
>>placed the post close to but not touching the brick. That post and the
>>brick and the fence are still there 40 years later. I have moved but the
>>fence has not.
>
> If it were a really good fence, it would have followed you to your new
> home.
>
> There is not only the issue of weathering, but if something big bumps
> into the fence, it can take part of the brickwork down too.
Yepper. You DO NOT attach fences to the house. Houses are forever- fences
are temporary structures.

aem sends....



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