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Finicky Fluorescent Light Jeffy3 06-01-2007
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Posted by mm on June 2, 2007, 5:35 pm
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:17:44 -0400, Jeff Wisnia

>Ken wrote:
>> Jeff Wisnia wrote:
>>
>>> Jeffy3 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Our kitchen ceiling fixture is driving us crazy. Its the kind that
>>>> uses two compact fluorescent bulbs (rectangular shaped). It has
>>>> worked fine for a few years but recently has been really hit or miss
>>>> as to whether it fires on or not. It wouldn't come on for two days
>>>> (we don't leave the switch in the on position, though, just keep
>>>> trying it) and then suddenly this morning it turned right on foor us,
>>>> then later it wouldn't turn on again. How do you troubleshoot these
>>>> things? I put a new bulb in last night but it didn't work. I checked
>>>> the wiring on the fixture and the switch and everything is connected.
>>>> If it is part of the fixture itself, is it fixable or not worth it?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Make sure the metal body of the fixture itself is grounded. Lack of
>>> grounding there can cause hard starting.
>>>
>>> If it is grounded, and you can test for and find line voltage at the
>>> power leads coming into the fixture when the switch is on, then change
>>> out the ballast.
>>
>>
>> Don't compact fluorescent bulbs contain their own ballast??
>>
>>>
>>> There isn't much more that can go wrong, bulb sockets usually don't
>>> fail unless they're abused by someone forcing a bulb into place.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>
>Guilty as charged....I saw only the words "rectangular shaped" and
>thought that was describing the shape of the whole fixture.

Me too. He should have said cf if they are cf. You're not guilty.
>
>If they are CF bulbs you are correct of course.
>
>And, if that's the case, it does sound like the problem is either a bad
>switch or a "loose disconnection" in the wiring. <G>
>
>Jeff


Posted by mm on June 2, 2007, 5:36 pm
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:17:44 -0400, Jeff Wisnia

>
>Guilty as charged....I saw only the words "rectangular shaped" and
>thought that was describing the shape of the whole fixture.
>
>If they are CF bulbs you are correct of course

Never mind. He did say cf, in full words.


Posted by Don Klipstein on June 4, 2007, 3:38 pm
Ken wrote:
>Jeff Wisnia wrote:
>> Jeffy3 wrote:
>>> Our kitchen ceiling fixture is driving us crazy. Its the kind that
>>> uses two compact fluorescent bulbs (rectangular shaped). It has
>>> worked fine for a few years but recently has been really hit or miss
>>> as to whether it fires on or not. It wouldn't come on for two days
>>> (we don't leave the switch in the on position, though, just keep
>>> trying it) and then suddenly this morning it turned right on foor us,
>>> then later it wouldn't turn on again. How do you troubleshoot these
>>> things? I put a new bulb in last night but it didn't work. I checked
>>> the wiring on the fixture and the switch and everything is connected.
>>> If it is part of the fixture itself, is it fixable or not worth it?
>>
>> Make sure the metal body of the fixture itself is grounded. Lack of
>> grounding there can cause hard starting.
>>
>> If it is grounded, and you can test for and find line voltage at the
>> power leads coming into the fixture when the switch is on, then change
>> out the ballast.
>
>        Don't compact fluorescent bulbs contain their own ballast??

Are the bulbs screw base or pin base? Most pin-base ones, and all
pin-base ones that I have seen, lack ballasts and require external
ballasts.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by on June 1, 2007, 11:34 pm
> Our kitchen ceiling fixture is driving us crazy. Its the kind that
> uses two compact fluorescent bulbs (rectangular shaped). It has
> worked fine for a few years but recently has been really hit or miss
> as to whether it fires on or not. It wouldn't come on for two days
> (we don't leave the switch in the on position, though, just keep
> trying it) and then suddenly this morning it turned right on foor us,
> then later it wouldn't turn on again. How do you troubleshoot these
> things? I put a new bulb in last night but it didn't work. I checked
> the wiring on the fixture and the switch and everything is connected.
> If it is part of the fixture itself, is it fixable or not worth it?

Some CFL's are not self ballasted. If yours is not then the
ballast(s) need to be changed. See figure 1 on the attached website.



Posted by on June 1, 2007, 11:35 pm
On Jun 1, 9:34 pm, tom.w.aitchi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Our kitchen ceiling fixture is driving us crazy. Its the kind that
> > uses two compact fluorescent bulbs (rectangular shaped). It has
> > worked fine for a few years but recently has been really hit or miss
> > as to whether it fires on or not. It wouldn't come on for two days
> > (we don't leave the switch in the on position, though, just keep
> > trying it) and then suddenly this morning it turned right on foor us,
> > then later it wouldn't turn on again. How do you troubleshoot these
> > things? I put a new bulb in last night but it didn't work. I checked
> > the wiring on the fixture and the switch and everything is connected.
> > If it is part of the fixture itself, is it fixable or not worth it?
>
> Some CFL's are not self ballasted. If yours is not then the
> ballast(s) need to be changed. See figure 1 on the attached website.

Oopps...here is the web site.

http://www.homeenergy.org/archive/hem.dis.anl.gov/eehem/94/941114.html


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