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Fixing Briggs and Stratton lawn tractor paul_d_demott 09-16-2006
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Posted by on September 16, 2006, 5:49 pm
I have an older Sears Craftsman lawn tractor with a 180 opposed twin
cylinder Briggs and Stratton Engine. My son was cutting the lawn with
it the other day and it gradually stalled out on him. He started it
up again, but it quickly stalled out again. Now the engine will barely
crank and will not start.

I checked the battery with a multi-meter and it tested at 12 volts. I
tried jumping it with a portable power source and this did not help. I
tried a new on/off switch and this did not help. I removed the cover
and I can turn the flywheel by hand without difficulty. The oil level
appears to be ok.

Any suggestions of what I should do next. I don't have much
experience with engine repair, but due to the tractor's age I don't
think it would be worth taking to a repair shop. So I willing to take
a shot at home repair.

From what I've read I am thinking the starter engine might be the
problem. One internet source suggested jumping the starter directly
from the battery. I am willing to try this, but it appears on my mower
that I need to first need to remove the flywheel to get to the starter
and this looks like a major undertaking, especially given the age of
the engine.
Is the starter where I should start or are there other things I
should or could check first? One question I have is whether a problem
in the starter would have caused the engine to stall out after it was
already going?

Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue? I do have a
basic Briggs and Stratton manual for the engine on a CD-Rom, but it
does not contain alot of trouble shooting info (at least that was
helpful to me) on the starter/electrical system. It is helpful,
however, on assembly and disassembly issues.


Posted by Oren on September 16, 2006, 6:18 pm
On 16 Sep 2006 14:49:26 -0700, paul_d_demott@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have an older Sears Craftsman lawn tractor with a 180 opposed twin
>cylinder Briggs and Stratton Engine. My son was cutting the lawn with
>it the other day and it gradually stalled out on him. He started it
>up again, but it quickly stalled out again. Now the engine will barely
>crank and will not start.
>
> I checked the battery with a multi-meter and it tested at 12 volts. I
>tried jumping it with a portable power source and this did not help. I
>tried a new on/off switch and this did not help. I removed the cover
>and I can turn the flywheel by hand without difficulty. The oil level
>appears to be ok.
>
> Any suggestions of what I should do next. I don't have much
>experience with engine repair, but due to the tractor's age I don't
>think it would be worth taking to a repair shop. So I willing to take
>a shot at home repair.
>
> From what I've read I am thinking the starter engine might be the
>problem. One internet source suggested jumping the starter directly
>from the battery. I am willing to try this, but it appears on my mower
>that I need to first need to remove the flywheel to get to the starter
>and this looks like a major undertaking, especially given the age of
>the engine.
> Is the starter where I should start or are there other things I
>should or could check first? One question I have is whether a problem
>in the starter would have caused the engine to stall out after it was
>already going?
>
> Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue? I do have a
>basic Briggs and Stratton manual for the engine on a CD-Rom, but it
>does not contain alot of trouble shooting info (at least that was
>helpful to me) on the starter/electrical system. It is helpful,
>however, on assembly and disassembly issues.

You might try to tighten/clean the starter/battery/solenoid cable(s).
The engine will run if it has essentials: fuel, oxygen and fire
(spark)...... Try the web site for B&S.

I have seen a wet blade of grass short my mower when it landed right
on the plug wire and head...pulled if off and fire back up.
--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens
constantly."

Posted by Rich256 on September 16, 2006, 6:48 pm
paul_d_demott@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have an older Sears Craftsman lawn tractor with a 180 opposed twin
> cylinder Briggs and Stratton Engine. My son was cutting the lawn with
> it the other day and it gradually stalled out on him. He started it
> up again, but it quickly stalled out again. Now the engine will barely
> crank and will not start.
>
> I checked the battery with a multi-meter and it tested at 12 volts. I
> tried jumping it with a portable power source and this did not help. I
> tried a new on/off switch and this did not help. I removed the cover
> and I can turn the flywheel by hand without difficulty. The oil level
> appears to be ok.
>
> Any suggestions of what I should do next. I don't have much
> experience with engine repair, but due to the tractor's age I don't
> think it would be worth taking to a repair shop. So I willing to take
> a shot at home repair.
>
> From what I've read I am thinking the starter engine might be the
> problem. One internet source suggested jumping the starter directly
> from the battery. I am willing to try this, but it appears on my mower
> that I need to first need to remove the flywheel to get to the starter
> and this looks like a major undertaking, especially given the age of
> the engine.
> Is the starter where I should start or are there other things I
> should or could check first? One question I have is whether a problem
> in the starter would have caused the engine to stall out after it was
> already going?
>
> Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue? I do have a
> basic Briggs and Stratton manual for the engine on a CD-Rom, but it
> does not contain alot of trouble shooting info (at least that was
> helpful to me) on the starter/electrical system. It is helpful,
> however, on assembly and disassembly issues.
>

From what you describe it is either the starter or battery. Be real
certain it is not the battery or the starter solenoid before going to
the starter. You need to measure the battery voltage when trying to
crank the engine.

When you say you jumped with a portable power source are you certain it
had a good charge. Jumping from a car battery would work too.

I have to kind of lean towards a weak battery because what you said
about the engine stalling out. A bad starter would not cause that.

Posted by on September 16, 2006, 7:01 pm
On 16 Sep 2006 14:49:26 -0700, paul_d_demott@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have an older Sears Craftsman lawn tractor with a 180 opposed twin
>cylinder Briggs and Stratton Engine. My son was cutting the lawn with
>it the other day and it gradually stalled out on him. He started it
>up again, but it quickly stalled out again. Now the engine will barely
>crank and will not start.
>
> I checked the battery with a multi-meter and it tested at 12 volts. I
>tried jumping it with a portable power source and this did not help. I
>tried a new on/off switch and this did not help. I removed the cover
>and I can turn the flywheel by hand without difficulty. The oil level
>appears to be ok.
>
> Any suggestions of what I should do next. I don't have much
>experience with engine repair, but due to the tractor's age I don't
>think it would be worth taking to a repair shop. So I willing to take
>a shot at home repair.
>
> From what I've read I am thinking the starter engine might be the
>problem. One internet source suggested jumping the starter directly
>from the battery. I am willing to try this, but it appears on my mower
>that I need to first need to remove the flywheel to get to the starter
>and this looks like a major undertaking, especially given the age of
>the engine.
> Is the starter where I should start or are there other things I
>should or could check first? One question I have is whether a problem
>in the starter would have caused the engine to stall out after it was
>already going?
>
> Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue? I do have a
>basic Briggs and Stratton manual for the engine on a CD-Rom, but it
>does not contain alot of trouble shooting info (at least that was
>helpful to me) on the starter/electrical system. It is helpful,
>however, on assembly and disassembly issues.

Several things come to mind:

The starter should not be able to cause the engine to stall.
Stopped inline fuel filter.
This engine uses a vacuum driven fuel pump. Check for vacuum hose leak
or fuel pump malfunction.
Check plugs- this engine fires plug to plug.
Put 6 or 8 drops of gas down the carb throat. Replace air filter and
see if it fires.
Have seen the electric blade clutch bearings fragment and lock the
engine as soon as it tried to rev up.
Love my old 18 horse clunker.
--
Mr.E

Posted by Stubby on September 16, 2006, 10:13 pm


Mr.E@totally.invalid wrote:
> On 16 Sep 2006 14:49:26 -0700, paul_d_demott@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I have an older Sears Craftsman lawn tractor with a 180 opposed twin
>> cylinder Briggs and Stratton Engine. My son was cutting the lawn with
>> it the other day and it gradually stalled out on him. He started it
>> up again, but it quickly stalled out again. Now the engine will barely
>> crank and will not start.
>>
>> I checked the battery with a multi-meter and it tested at 12 volts. I
>> tried jumping it with a portable power source and this did not help. I
>> tried a new on/off switch and this did not help. I removed the cover
>> and I can turn the flywheel by hand without difficulty. The oil level
>> appears to be ok.
>>
>> Any suggestions of what I should do next. I don't have much
>> experience with engine repair, but due to the tractor's age I don't
>> think it would be worth taking to a repair shop. So I willing to take
>> a shot at home repair.
>>
>> From what I've read I am thinking the starter engine might be the
>> problem. One internet source suggested jumping the starter directly
>>from the battery. I am willing to try this, but it appears on my mower
>> that I need to first need to remove the flywheel to get to the starter
>> and this looks like a major undertaking, especially given the age of
>> the engine.
>> Is the starter where I should start or are there other things I
>> should or could check first? One question I have is whether a problem
>> in the starter would have caused the engine to stall out after it was
>> already going?
>>
>> Any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue? I do have a
>> basic Briggs and Stratton manual for the engine on a CD-Rom, but it
>> does not contain alot of trouble shooting info (at least that was
>> helpful to me) on the starter/electrical system. It is helpful,
>> however, on assembly and disassembly issues.
>
> Several things come to mind:
>
> The starter should not be able to cause the engine to stall.
> Stopped inline fuel filter.
> This engine uses a vacuum driven fuel pump. Check for vacuum hose leak
> or fuel pump malfunction.
> Check plugs- this engine fires plug to plug.
> Put 6 or 8 drops of gas down the carb throat. Replace air filter and
> see if it fires.
> Have seen the electric blade clutch bearings fragment and lock the
> engine as soon as it tried to rev up.
> Love my old 18 horse clunker.

Ditto. My chariot is 17 years old.

Try some "Starter Fluid" from an auto parts store. It's ether and will
usually start an engine. Replace the fuel filter. I had a car that
would stall out going up steep hills or going at 70 mph for a few
minutes. The problem was the fuel filter was letting only a trickle get
through to the carburetor; consequently, the car would die after the
fuel in the bowl in the carb was used.

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