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Fixing my home driveway ditch drain? ~ Thanks for advice!! helmsfamily 06-13-2007
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Posted by on June 13, 2007, 12:07 pm
A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
give to fix the problem?

I though I *might* get a large stone paver and just dig down to the
pipes and place that over the top of the two pipes, fill back with
dirt leaving the pipes separate (they have been down there separated
for years anyway) and put the gravel back on top. What do you think?
Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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Posted by DerbyDad03 on June 13, 2007, 1:15 pm
On 13 Jun, 12:07, helmsfam...@triad.rr.com wrote:
> A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
> in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
> just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> give to fix the problem?
>
> I though I *might* get a large stone paver and just dig down to the
> pipes and place that over the top of the two pipes, fill back with
> dirt leaving the pipes separate (they have been down there separated
> for years anyway) and put the gravel back on top. What do you think?
> Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Are these pipes supposed to be attached together? If so, the
regardless of how many years they have been separated, I think that
they should be repaired. The fact that you are seeing the beginnings
of the problems the erosion is finally causing (i.e. the sinkhole)
should be an indication that things should not be left as is. I can
imagine a scenario where more and more dirt get washed our from under
the pipes and the pipes themselves begin to sink, along with
everything above it.

Here's my suggestion: Check out this site to see what a Fernco
coupling looks like. Go to your local plumbing supply store and get
one that will fit you size pipe and fix it right.
http://www.fernco.com/coupling.asp


Posted by Lawrence on June 13, 2007, 2:04 pm
On Jun 13, 11:07 am, helmsfam...@triad.rr.com wrote:
> A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
> in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
> just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> give to fix the problem?
>
> I though I *might* get a large stone paver and just dig down to the
> pipes and place that over the top of the two pipes, fill back with
> dirt leaving the pipes separate (they have been down there separated
> for years anyway) atynd put the gravel back on top. What do you think?
> Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I guess that depends on what those pipes are for. What are they
for?

If they appear to be damaged then they may be abandoned from a
previous install in which case you many do as you wish.

If they represent your current electric service then a greater sense
of care and urgency would be required. If the conduit for an existing
install is broken then you may want to replace. This may not mean
digging it up since it is possible to just abandon the old line and
bury a new one. Either way, extreme care is to be used.

If they are water pipes and there is no leak or interuption of your
water then cover carefully and leave well enough alone.


Posted by EXT on June 13, 2007, 3:00 pm
Are you talking of a single ditch culvert pipe under a driveway that is two
pipes long with a gap in the middle or are you talking of a pair of culvert
pipes installed in parallel under your driveway? Different treatments for
each situation.


>A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
> in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
> just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> give to fix the problem?
>
> I though I *might* get a large stone paver and just dig down to the
> pipes and place that over the top of the two pipes, fill back with
> dirt leaving the pipes separate (they have been down there separated
> for years anyway) and put the gravel back on top. What do you think?
> Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>



Posted by on June 13, 2007, 5:49 pm
> Are you talking of a single ditch culvert pipe under a driveway that is two
> pipes long with a gap in the middle or are you talking of a pair of culvert
> pipes installed in parallel under your driveway? Different treatments for
> each situation.
>
>
>
>
>
> >A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> > the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
> > in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
> > just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> > were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> > distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> > pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> > over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> > give to fix the problem?
>
> > I though I *might* get a large stone paver and just dig down to the
> > pipes and place that over the top of the two pipes, fill back with
> > dirt leaving the pipes separate (they have been down there separated
> > for years anyway) and put the gravel back on top. What do you think?
> > Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!- Hide
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It is a single ditch culvert pipe under a driveway that is two to
pipes (maybe 3 pipes) long with a gap in the middle. Also in
reference to the first post these are just drainage concrete pipes and
do NOT have water and sewer or electricity running through them. I
think our 3 cats get in them to get out of the rain. I had noticed a
while back that one side seemed much higher than the other side and
though that was mostly due to more gravel collecting on that side.
This higher side is the side with the small "sinkhole". ~ The author


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