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Fixing my home driveway ditch drain? ~ Thanks for advice!! helmsfamily 06-13-2007
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Posted by Goedjn on June 13, 2007, 6:56 pm

>> >A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
>> > the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
>> > in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
>> > just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
>> > were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
>> > distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
>> > pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
>> > over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
>> > give to fix the problem?


Shove section of liner down the culverts. (Are they big enough for
you to slither down without drowning or getting stuck?) Sheetmetal
or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner.

Posted by on June 14, 2007, 9:35 am
> >> >A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> >> > the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
> >> > in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
> >> > just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> >> > were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> >> > distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> >> > pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> >> > over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> >> > give to fix the problem?
>
> Shove section of liner down the culverts. (Are they big enough for
> you to slither down without drowning or getting stuck?) Sheetmetal
> or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
> down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner.


What you said sounds like a pretty good and easy idea..."Shove section
of liner down the culverts. Sheetmetal
or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner." And these
pipes are only about 12 inches or less outside diameter.
I know I will need to schedule a Saturday soon to dig up all around it
and see how bad the problem really is, unless I use some cardboard or
sheet metal as you say and slide it up "inside" the pipe to keep from
actually digging out the pipe on the outside. Thanks.




Posted by DerbyDad03 on June 14, 2007, 12:30 pm
On 14 Jun, 09:35, helmsfam...@triad.rr.com wrote:
>
> > >> >A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> > >> > the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
> > >> > in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
> > >> > just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> > >> > were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> > >> > distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> > >> > pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> > >> > over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> > >> > give to fix the problem?
>
> > Shove section of liner down the culverts. (Are they big enough for
> > you to slither down without drowning or getting stuck?) Sheetmetal
> > or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
> > down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner.
>
> What you said sounds like a pretty good and easy idea..."Shove section
> of liner down the culverts. Sheetmetal
> or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
> down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner." And these
> pipes are only about 12 inches or less outside diameter.
> I know I will need to schedule a Saturday soon to dig up all around it
> and see how bad the problem really is, unless I use some cardboard or
> sheet metal as you say and slide it up "inside" the pipe to keep from
> actually digging out the pipe on the outside. Thanks.

Just curious...is my Fernco coupling suggestions out of the running as
a possibly more permanent fix?


Posted by Goedjn on June 14, 2007, 2:57 pm
wrote:

>On 14 Jun, 09:35, helmsfam...@triad.rr.com wrote:
>>
>> > >> >A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
>> > >> > the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3 inches
>> > >> > in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the rock
>> > >> > just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
>> > >> > were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
>> > >> > distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
>> > >> > pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
>> > >> > over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
>> > >> > give to fix the problem?
>>
>> > Shove section of liner down the culverts. (Are they big enough for
>> > you to slither down without drowning or getting stuck?) Sheetmetal
>> > or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
>> > down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner.
>>
>> What you said sounds like a pretty good and easy idea..."Shove section
>> of liner down the culverts. Sheetmetal
>> or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
>> down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner." And these
>> pipes are only about 12 inches or less outside diameter.
>> I know I will need to schedule a Saturday soon to dig up all around it
>> and see how bad the problem really is, unless I use some cardboard or
>> sheet metal as you say and slide it up "inside" the pipe to keep from
>> actually digging out the pipe on the outside. Thanks.
>
>Just curious...is my Fernco coupling suggestions out of the running as
>a possibly more permanent fix?

Trouble with that is that it requires you to be able to
move at least one of the pipes, at least a few inches.
Which probably requires digging out the entire length
of it.

Posted by on June 14, 2007, 5:19 pm
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 14 Jun, 09:35, helmsfam...@triad.rr.com wrote:
>
> >> > >> >A *hole* is opening up between two concrete pipes in my driveway under
> >> > >> > the rock and dirt that goes over my ditch. The hole is about 3
inches
> >> > >> > in diameter and I guess rain has disolved the dirt underneath the
rock
> >> > >> > just above the two pipes. I can see that the two pipes underground
> >> > >> > were not joined together well and there is about an inch or so of
> >> > >> > distance between the two pipes. Short of digging them up completely,
> >> > >> > pushing the two pipes together and then putting dirt and gravel back
> >> > >> > over the two pipes (which would take some time) what advice would you
> >> > >> > give to fix the problem?
>
> >> > Shove section of liner down the culverts. (Are they big enough for
> >> > you to slither down without drowning or getting stuck?) Sheetmetal
> >> > or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
> >> > down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner.
>
> >> What you said sounds like a pretty good and easy idea..."Shove section
> >> of liner down the culverts. Sheetmetal
> >> or cardboard should do. Then squirt a really wet concrete mix
> >> down the hole until it starts oozing around the liner." And these
> >> pipes are only about 12 inches or less outside diameter.
> >> I know I will need to schedule a Saturday soon to dig up all around it
> >> and see how bad the problem really is, unless I use some cardboard or
> >> sheet metal as you say and slide it up "inside" the pipe to keep from
> >> actually digging out the pipe on the outside. Thanks.
>
> >Just curious...is my Fernco coupling suggestions out of the running as
> >a possibly more permanent fix?
>
> Trouble with that is that it requires you to be able to
> move at least one of the pipes, at least a few inches.
> Which probably requires digging out the entire length
> of it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The jury is still out on this one folks. I am going to think long and
hard before any final decisions are made. Who know's that homeowner's
insurance might cover it, but I will have to look into deductables,
etc. And in final I will set down with my wife and discuss the matter
and then we will both ruminate on it for a while. I probably will put
something over the hole temporarily until we can decide on the best
fix at the time. (Money is also tight right now.)


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