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Flapper Woes--help rocky47 01-19-2007
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Posted by on January 19, 2007, 3:13 pm


Hello:

Hope someone can help. I needed to replace a flapper on a three year
old AM. STRD. Toilet because the original was not sealing causing
phantom flushes. Needless to say, I figured it would be a snap job!!
Wrong!!

I am on my 4th new flapper install. All were universal types bought at
your usual Do-it-yourself stores (e.g.: home despot).

Thing is---they all seal properly---my problem is---the damn things
don't always drop after flushing! I have tried both the snap down
type (snaps over the standpipe ears) and the type with rubber holes
that fit over the ears.

Same result---a 50 to 80% drop rate. Sometimes it just sticks
up---sometimes the rubber binds causing it to stay up or to fall and
not seat. I have tried all types of chain lengths and slacks. I still
get the problem.

My question obviously is what am I doing wrong?

The chain is at a slight angle to the center of the flaooer---as it was
on the original. I have a side angle flush handle---seems to work
ok---tight enough!

Should I just replace the whole flush mechanism---seems to be
overkill-but-hey---this is a "simple" task that is driving me
nuts and wasting a lot of water!

Any help appreciated! (am trying my 5th flapper as I speak!)


PEACE!!!


Posted by Art on January 19, 2007, 5:24 pm



Buy an American Standard flapper instead of the universal type.


> Hello:
>
> Hope someone can help. I needed to replace a flapper on a three year
> old AM. STRD. Toilet because the original was not sealing causing
> phantom flushes. Needless to say, I figured it would be a snap job!!
> Wrong!!
>
> I am on my 4th new flapper install. All were universal types bought at
> your usual Do-it-yourself stores (e.g.: home despot).
>
> Thing is---they all seal properly---my problem is---the damn things
> don't always drop after flushing! I have tried both the snap down
> type (snaps over the standpipe ears) and the type with rubber holes
> that fit over the ears.
>
> Same result---a 50 to 80% drop rate. Sometimes it just sticks
> up---sometimes the rubber binds causing it to stay up or to fall and
> not seat. I have tried all types of chain lengths and slacks. I still
> get the problem.
>
> My question obviously is what am I doing wrong?
>
> The chain is at a slight angle to the center of the flaooer---as it was
> on the original. I have a side angle flush handle---seems to work
> ok---tight enough!
>
> Should I just replace the whole flush mechanism---seems to be
> overkill-but-hey---this is a "simple" task that is driving me
> nuts and wasting a lot of water!
>
> Any help appreciated! (am trying my 5th flapper as I speak!)
>
>
> PEACE!!!
>



Posted by CJT on January 19, 2007, 6:25 pm


rocky47@my-deja.com wrote:

> Hello:
>
> Hope someone can help. I needed to replace a flapper on a three year
> old AM. STRD. Toilet because the original was not sealing causing
> phantom flushes. Needless to say, I figured it would be a snap job!!
> Wrong!!
>
> I am on my 4th new flapper install. All were universal types bought at
> your usual Do-it-yourself stores (e.g.: home despot).
>
> Thing is---they all seal properly---my problem is---the damn things
> don't always drop after flushing! I have tried both the snap down
> type (snaps over the standpipe ears) and the type with rubber holes
> that fit over the ears.
>
> Same result---a 50 to 80% drop rate. Sometimes it just sticks
> up---sometimes the rubber binds causing it to stay up or to fall and
> not seat. I have tried all types of chain lengths and slacks. I still
> get the problem.
>
> My question obviously is what am I doing wrong?
>
> The chain is at a slight angle to the center of the flaooer---as it was
> on the original. I have a side angle flush handle---seems to work
> ok---tight enough!
>
> Should I just replace the whole flush mechanism---seems to be
> overkill-but-hey---this is a "simple" task that is driving me
> nuts and wasting a lot of water!
>
> Any help appreciated! (am trying my 5th flapper as I speak!)
>
>
> PEACE!!!
>
Leave more slack in the chain.

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Posted by Steve Henderson on January 21, 2007, 5:10 pm


CJT wrote:
> rocky47@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Hope someone can help. I needed to replace a flapper on a three year
>> old AM. STRD. Toilet because the original was not sealing causing
>> phantom flushes. Needless to say, I figured it would be a snap job!!
>> Wrong!!
>>
>> I am on my 4th new flapper install. All were universal types bought at
>> your usual Do-it-yourself stores (e.g.: home despot).
>>
>> Thing is---they all seal properly---my problem is---the damn things
>> don't always drop after flushing! I have tried both the snap down
>> type (snaps over the standpipe ears) and the type with rubber holes
>> that fit over the ears.
>>
>> Same result---a 50 to 80% drop rate. Sometimes it just sticks
>> up---sometimes the rubber binds causing it to stay up or to fall and
>> not seat. I have tried all types of chain lengths and slacks. I still
>> get the problem.
>>
>> My question obviously is what am I doing wrong?
>>
>> The chain is at a slight angle to the center of the flaooer---as it was
>> on the original. I have a side angle flush handle---seems to work
>> ok---tight enough!
>>
>> Should I just replace the whole flush mechanism---seems to be
>> overkill-but-hey---this is a "simple" task that is driving me
>> nuts and wasting a lot of water!
>>
>> Any help appreciated! (am trying my 5th flapper as I speak!)
>>
>>
>> PEACE!!!
>>
> Leave more slack in the chain.
>

I had a chain that was hanging on itself - one link hanging on
another.. same symptoms... I just replaced the chain with a length of
nylon line (fishing line will do)... no more hangups.

Posted by pkmicro on February 11, 2007, 6:51 pm



I have the same problem and after I replace with the fluidmaster's "Rigid
Toilet Tank Flapper" in blue and white color.
It solve all the problem. The arms of the other universal flapper were too
close to the pipe causing it to stuck, preventing
it to drop. You can also put a piece of wire to stretch the are open a
little bit so it will not embrace the pipe too tight,
that wil help too. Good luck.





> Hello:
>
> Hope someone can help. I needed to replace a flapper on a three year
> old AM. STRD. Toilet because the original was not sealing causing
> phantom flushes. Needless to say, I figured it would be a snap job!!
> Wrong!!
>
> I am on my 4th new flapper install. All were universal types bought at
> your usual Do-it-yourself stores (e.g.: home despot).
>
> Thing is---they all seal properly---my problem is---the damn things
> don't always drop after flushing! I have tried both the snap down
> type (snaps over the standpipe ears) and the type with rubber holes
> that fit over the ears.
>
> Same result---a 50 to 80% drop rate. Sometimes it just sticks
> up---sometimes the rubber binds causing it to stay up or to fall and
> not seat. I have tried all types of chain lengths and slacks. I still
> get the problem.
>
> My question obviously is what am I doing wrong?
>
> The chain is at a slight angle to the center of the flaooer---as it was
> on the original. I have a side angle flush handle---seems to work
> ok---tight enough!
>
> Should I just replace the whole flush mechanism---seems to be
> overkill-but-hey---this is a "simple" task that is driving me
> nuts and wasting a lot of water!
>
> Any help appreciated! (am trying my 5th flapper as I speak!)
>
>
> PEACE!!!
>



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