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Flash Flood ended the Concert ronronron 08-17-2007
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Posted by on August 17, 2007, 4:44 am
Last weekend I went to an outdoor concert / festival. There was a
rock band playing inside a metal pole barn-like building. I could see
fierce lightning out in the distance, and then someone announced over
the bands microphones that there was a severe storm approaching and
everyone should exit the large tents, and either leave or come into
that tin building. Most people came into the building and the band
went back to playing music. All of a sudden I could see the trees
outside bending way over and the lightning was close, and even the
thunder could be heard over the loud amplifiers. Seconds later the
rain came down in buckets and the water coming off that roof was like
a waterfall, and someone closed all the sliding doors.

Now I still dont know where all the water came from, since that
building was on the high end of the grounds, but suddenly there was a
river coming thru the building. It only took a minute for the water
to reach a depth of about 18 inches. It pushed the doors inward on
the upper end of the building and outward on the lower end as all the
water rushed by carrying all the trash from the ground with it. A few
of the wooden picnic tables were afloat, but people began to stand on
them and secure them. The band was on a 5 foot tall stage, so they
were dry except gusts of rain that managed to blow in the cracks by
the doors. The younger audience just played and danced in the water
and were splashing each other, while us older folks just stood on
tables or decided our shoes were dirty and needed a washing. No one
seemed too upset, of course many were drinking. I had not been
drinking and was cautious and watched the storm thru the cracks next
to the door. I also noticed that there were people lifting mic cables
and other wires that were hanging off the stage. That's when I
decided I should go make sure they were plugged into GFI outlets.
They were, so I figured everyone was safe. Thats when some official
came onto the stage and told the band they were going to cut the power
to the sound system. I also saw someone telling the food vendors to
unplug everything.

While I so understand the reasoning behind this, and was more worried
about the food vendors who were not on GFI outlets, and had extension
cords all over the place to their cash registers, coolers, etc. But I
really dont think the band needed to be stopped as long as they were
plugged into GFI's. After all, that's the purpose of having them.

It was dissapointing, but was a night I will never forget. When
people were leaving, some found their cars in the lower lot with water
halfway to the roof, and covered with trash. I now suspect that the
storm sewers backed up above that building. Regardless the amount of
water coming off that roof, there was just too much water for simply
what came off the roof and accumulated on the asphalt outside.

Posted by Mike Dobony on August 18, 2007, 5:00 pm

> Last weekend I went to an outdoor concert / festival. There was a
> rock band playing inside a metal pole barn-like building. I could see
> fierce lightning out in the distance, and then someone announced over
> the bands microphones that there was a severe storm approaching and
> everyone should exit the large tents, and either leave or come into
> that tin building. Most people came into the building and the band
> went back to playing music. All of a sudden I could see the trees
> outside bending way over and the lightning was close, and even the
> thunder could be heard over the loud amplifiers. Seconds later the
> rain came down in buckets and the water coming off that roof was like
> a waterfall, and someone closed all the sliding doors.
>
> Now I still dont know where all the water came from, since that
> building was on the high end of the grounds, but suddenly there was a
> river coming thru the building. It only took a minute for the water
> to reach a depth of about 18 inches. It pushed the doors inward on
> the upper end of the building and outward on the lower end as all the
> water rushed by carrying all the trash from the ground with it. A few
> of the wooden picnic tables were afloat, but people began to stand on
> them and secure them. The band was on a 5 foot tall stage, so they
> were dry except gusts of rain that managed to blow in the cracks by
> the doors. The younger audience just played and danced in the water
> and were splashing each other, while us older folks just stood on
> tables or decided our shoes were dirty and needed a washing. No one
> seemed too upset, of course many were drinking. I had not been
> drinking and was cautious and watched the storm thru the cracks next
> to the door. I also noticed that there were people lifting mic cables
> and other wires that were hanging off the stage. That's when I
> decided I should go make sure they were plugged into GFI outlets.
> They were, so I figured everyone was safe. Thats when some official
> came onto the stage and told the band they were going to cut the power
> to the sound system. I also saw someone telling the food vendors to
> unplug everything.
>
> While I so understand the reasoning behind this, and was more worried
> about the food vendors who were not on GFI outlets, and had extension
> cords all over the place to their cash registers, coolers, etc. But I
> really dont think the band needed to be stopped as long as they were
> plugged into GFI's. After all, that's the purpose of having them.
>

The equipment was protected, but not necessarily what was plugged into the
euipment. A few years ago a pastor was killed during a baptism when he
grabbed the mic while in the baptismal. It is still a hazzard even if
plugged into a GFI.


> It was dissapointing, but was a night I will never forget. When
> people were leaving, some found their cars in the lower lot with water
> halfway to the roof, and covered with trash. I now suspect that the
> storm sewers backed up above that building. Regardless the amount of
> water coming off that roof, there was just too much water for simply
> what came off the roof and accumulated on the asphalt outside.



Posted by tom on August 18, 2007, 5:40 pm
Mike Dobony wrote:
>> Last weekend I went to an outdoor concert / festival. There was a
>> rock band playing inside a metal pole barn-like building. I could
>> see fierce lightning out in the distance, and then someone announced
>> over the bands microphones that there was a severe storm approaching
>> and everyone should exit the large tents, and either leave or come
>> into that tin building. Most people came into the building and the
>> band went back to playing music. All of a sudden I could see the
>> trees outside bending way over and the lightning was close, and even
>> the thunder could be heard over the loud amplifiers. Seconds later
>> the rain came down in buckets and the water coming off that roof was
>> like a waterfall, and someone closed all the sliding doors.
>>
>> Now I still dont know where all the water came from, since that
>> building was on the high end of the grounds, but suddenly there was a
>> river coming thru the building. It only took a minute for the water
>> to reach a depth of about 18 inches. It pushed the doors inward on
>> the upper end of the building and outward on the lower end as all the
>> water rushed by carrying all the trash from the ground with it. A
>> few of the wooden picnic tables were afloat, but people began to
>> stand on them and secure them. The band was on a 5 foot tall stage,
>> so they were dry except gusts of rain that managed to blow in the
>> cracks by the doors. The younger audience just played and danced in
>> the water and were splashing each other, while us older folks just
>> stood on tables or decided our shoes were dirty and needed a
>> washing. No one seemed too upset, of course many were drinking. I
>> had not been drinking and was cautious and watched the storm thru
>> the cracks next to the door. I also noticed that there were people
>> lifting mic cables and other wires that were hanging off the stage.
>> That's when I decided I should go make sure they were plugged into
>> GFI outlets. They were, so I figured everyone was safe. Thats when
>> some official came onto the stage and told the band they were going
>> to cut the power to the sound system. I also saw someone telling
>> the food vendors to unplug everything.
>>
>> While I so understand the reasoning behind this, and was more worried
>> about the food vendors who were not on GFI outlets, and had extension
>> cords all over the place to their cash registers, coolers, etc. But
>> I really dont think the band needed to be stopped as long as they
>> were plugged into GFI's. After all, that's the purpose of having
>> them.
>>
>
> The equipment was protected, but not necessarily what was plugged
> into the euipment. A few years ago a pastor was killed during a
> baptism when he grabbed the mic while in the baptismal. It is still
> a hazzard even if plugged into a GFI.

Another reason for wireless guitars/mic's.



Posted by Mike Dobony on August 19, 2007, 9:11 am

> Mike Dobony wrote:
>>> Last weekend I went to an outdoor concert / festival. There was a
>>> rock band playing inside a metal pole barn-like building. I could
>>> see fierce lightning out in the distance, and then someone announced
>>> over the bands microphones that there was a severe storm approaching
>>> and everyone should exit the large tents, and either leave or come
>>> into that tin building. Most people came into the building and the
>>> band went back to playing music. All of a sudden I could see the
>>> trees outside bending way over and the lightning was close, and even
>>> the thunder could be heard over the loud amplifiers. Seconds later
>>> the rain came down in buckets and the water coming off that roof was
>>> like a waterfall, and someone closed all the sliding doors.
>>>
>>> Now I still dont know where all the water came from, since that
>>> building was on the high end of the grounds, but suddenly there was a
>>> river coming thru the building. It only took a minute for the water
>>> to reach a depth of about 18 inches. It pushed the doors inward on
>>> the upper end of the building and outward on the lower end as all the
>>> water rushed by carrying all the trash from the ground with it. A
>>> few of the wooden picnic tables were afloat, but people began to
>>> stand on them and secure them. The band was on a 5 foot tall stage,
>>> so they were dry except gusts of rain that managed to blow in the
>>> cracks by the doors. The younger audience just played and danced in
>>> the water and were splashing each other, while us older folks just
>>> stood on tables or decided our shoes were dirty and needed a
>>> washing. No one seemed too upset, of course many were drinking. I
>>> had not been drinking and was cautious and watched the storm thru
>>> the cracks next to the door. I also noticed that there were people
>>> lifting mic cables and other wires that were hanging off the stage.
>>> That's when I decided I should go make sure they were plugged into
>>> GFI outlets. They were, so I figured everyone was safe. Thats when
>>> some official came onto the stage and told the band they were going
>>> to cut the power to the sound system. I also saw someone telling
>>> the food vendors to unplug everything.
>>>
>>> While I so understand the reasoning behind this, and was more worried
>>> about the food vendors who were not on GFI outlets, and had extension
>>> cords all over the place to their cash registers, coolers, etc. But
>>> I really dont think the band needed to be stopped as long as they
>>> were plugged into GFI's. After all, that's the purpose of having
>>> them.
>>>
>>
>> The equipment was protected, but not necessarily what was plugged
>> into the euipment. A few years ago a pastor was killed during a
>> baptism when he grabbed the mic while in the baptismal. It is still
>> a hazzard even if plugged into a GFI.
>
> Another reason for wireless guitars/mic's.
>
>

I prefer wired shotgun mic for this application. Wireless mics are VERY
expensive for anything worth buying.



Posted by tom on August 19, 2007, 9:20 am
Mike Dobony wrote:
>> Mike Dobony wrote:
>>>> Last weekend I went to an outdoor concert / festival.
<snip>
>> Another reason for wireless guitars/mic's.
>>
>>
>
> I prefer wired shotgun mic for this application. Wireless mics are
> VERY expensive for anything worth buying.

If you're a player they're more than worth the price to avoid a shock. You
seldom know the electrical setup when you walk into a club or outdoor gig
you've never been to before.




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