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Fleck Water Softener Problem warrenshudson 02-10-2008
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Posted by on February 10, 2008, 8:53 pm
I have a 48,000 Grain water softener that I bought and Installed.
Everything worked great, and It worked fine with the settings "out of
the box" i.e. 15 lbs of salt and 854 gallons before a new
regeneration. Obviously, that is excessive salt use for a family of 4
with 17 gpg hardness and 1 ppm iron.

I was able to get those settings correct after about a week, but I
found that the 18x33 brine tank that came with the unit was too large
for the room the softener sits in. I bought a used 12x14
rectangular brine tank locally from a softener guy for 50.00. I gave
him the brine well and float and the 18x33 tank and he gave me this
new (used) tank that came off a old technetic softener. When I
installed the new brine tank, I found that when the softener (fleck
5600se) goes into brine/rinse stage, it starts sucking air and it
makes the water throughout the house salty and fizzy (lots of air in
the water). Is this because the float in the new (old) tank not
compatible with the 5600??? Thanks

Posted by Oren on February 10, 2008, 10:05 pm
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0800 (PST), warrenshudson@gmail.com
wrote:

>I have a 48,000 Grain water softener that I bought and Installed.
>Everything worked great, and It worked fine with the settings "out of
>the box" i.e. 15 lbs of salt and 854 gallons before a new
>regeneration. Obviously, that is excessive salt use for a family of 4
>with 17 gpg hardness and 1 ppm iron.

Look on the control valve, for a sticker. Does it say/marked in pen
or marker 2.0 or 4.0? (factory setting upon order)

It seems you regenerate more than necessary. Mine is marked 2.0 - two
people, 75 gallons of water per day..all included.

Understand the 5600se control has a default regen cycle of 14 days,
iirc! You can up the number.


>
>I was able to get those settings correct after about a week, but I
>found that the 18x33 brine tank that came with the unit was too large
>for the room the softener sits in. I bought a used 12x14
>rectangular brine tank locally from a softener guy for 50.00. I gave
>him the brine well and float and the 18x33 tank and he gave me this
>new (used) tank that came off a old technetic softener. When I
>installed the new brine tank, I found that when the softener (fleck
>5600se) goes into brine/rinse stage, it starts sucking air and it
>makes the water throughout the house salty and fizzy (lots of air in
>the water). Is this because the float in the new (old) tank not
>compatible with the 5600??? Thanks

Oren
--

Posted by Gary Slusser on February 13, 2008, 12:44 pm
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0800 (PST), warrenshud...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >I have a 48,000 Grain watersoftenerthat I bought and Installed.
> >Everything worked great, and It worked fine with the settings "out of
> >the box" i.e. 15 lbs of salt and 854 gallons before a new
> >regeneration. Obviously, that is excessive salt use for a family of 4
> >with 17 gpg hardness and 1 ppm iron.
>
> Look on the control valve, for a sticker. Does it say/marked in pen
> or marker 2.0 or 4.0? (factory setting upon order)
>
> It seems you regenerate more than necessary. Mine is marked 2.0 - two
> people, 75 gallons of water per day..all included.
>
> Understand the 5600se control has a default regen cycle of 14 days,
> iirc! You can up the number.
>
> Oren
> --

That handwritten number is the DLFC button's gpm rating; that is the
drain line flow control. It is different for each cuft size softener
and the type of resin used. It has nothing to do with the number of
people.

The 14 days, it can go from 1 to 28 days, is the calendar override of
the metering. It should be set for the number of days between
regenerations based on the K of capacity dictated/established by the
salt dose lbs in the given volume and type of resin. Plus the type of
'salt' used for regeneration; sodium chloride (softener salt) or
potassium chloride (salt substitute) which is not as efficient as
softener salt because all residential ion exchange softener resin is
made in the sodium form, there is no potassium form resin. Depending
on the salt efficiency setting of the softener, you may have to
increase the salt dose by up to 30%.

Gary Slusser
Quality Water Associates

Posted by Gary Slusser on February 13, 2008, 12:51 pm
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0800 (PST), warrenshud...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >I have a 48,000 Grain water softener that I bought and Installed.
> >Everything worked great, and It worked fine with the settings "out of
> >the box" i.e. 15 lbs of salt and 854 gallons before a new
> >regeneration. Obviously, that is excessive salt use for a family of 4
> >with 17 gpg hardness and 1 ppm iron.
>
> Look on the control valve, for a sticker. Does it say/marked in pen
> or marker 2.0 or 4.0? (factory setting upon order)
>
> It seems you regenerate more than necessary. Mine is marked 2.0 - two
> people, 75 gallons of water per day..all included.
>
> Understand the 5600se control has a default regen cycle of 14 days,
> iirc! You can up the number.
>
> Oren
> --

That handwritten number is the DLFC button's gpm rating; that is the
drain line flow control. It is different for each cuft size softener
and the type of resin used. It has nothing to do with the number of
people.

The 14 days, it can go from 1 to 28 days, is the calendar override of
the metering. It should be set for the number of days between
regenerations based on the K of capacity dictated/established by the
salt dose lbs in the given volume and type of resin. Plus the type of
'salt' used for regeneration; sodium chloride (softener salt) or
potassium chloride (salt substitute) which is not as efficient as
softener salt because all residential ion exchange softener resin is
made in the sodium form, there is no potassium form resin. Depending
on the salt efficiency setting of the softener, you may have to
increase the salt dose by up to 30%.

Gary Slusser
Quality Water Associates

Posted by Gary Slusser on February 13, 2008, 1:08 pm
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0800 (PST), warrenshud...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >I have a 48,000 Grain water softener that I bought and Installed.
> >Everything worked great, and It worked fine with the settings "out of
> >the box" i.e. 15 lbs of salt and 854 gallons before a new
> >regeneration. Obviously, that is excessive salt use for a family of 4
> >with 17 gpg hardness and 1 ppm iron.
>
> Look on the control valve, for a sticker. Does it say/marked in pen
> or marker 2.0 or 4.0? (factory setting upon order)
>
> It seems you regenerate more than necessary. Mine is marked 2.0 - two
> people, 75 gallons of water per day..all included.
>
> Understand the 5600se control has a default regen cycle of 14 days,
> iirc! You can up the number.
>
> Oren

That handwritten number is the DLFC button's gpm rating; that is the
drain line flow control. It is different for each cuft size softener
and the type of resin used. It has nothing to do with the number of
people.

The 14 days, it can go from 1 to 28 days, is the calendar override of
the metering. It should be set for the number of days between
regenerations based on the K of capacity dictated/established by the
salt dose lbs in the given volume and type of resin. Plus the type of
'salt' used for regeneration; sodium chloride (softener salt) or
potassium chloride (salt substitute) which is not as efficient as
softener salt because all residential ion exchange softener resin is
made in the sodium form, there is no potassium form resin. Depending
on the salt efficiency setting of the softener, you may have to
increase the salt dose by up to 30%.

Gary Slusser
Quality Water Associates

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