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Posted by RicodJour on July 23, 2006, 1:33 am
Ed wrote:
> wrote:
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> >Once in a blue moon it's either an excellent
> >horror story (always from the homeowner's point of view, of course) or
> >good troll. Both have their merits.
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> I actually find a lot of these helpful when I might be in the process
> of deciding who,what, when or where in an upcoming project or
> purchase.
How are random one-sided-ramblings from scattered points around the
world of help? Surely, you don't believe that just because the poster
discovered Usenet that they're 100% honest and legitimate? There are
so many scenarios that you ignore. How about this one - a competitor
posts some gibberish to damage someone?
The people that post diatribe's are generally obsessive cranks and not
themselves entirely free from blame (assuming that it's a real person
posting and not a troll). These are not the people that a reasonable
person looks to for advice. A reasonable person would check with their
Better Business Bureau, contractor's licensing board, assorted
insurance agencies, get references and check on the contractor's work
before signing anything. If there's a problem it gets reported to the
same agencies.
That way it stays local and doesn't waste other people's time.
R
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Posted by on July 23, 2006, 3:58 am
Why are the cranks like Ricodjour always so long-winded in their
blow-by-blow responses to common complaints in the business? Did
anyone actually read Ricodjour's comments? How are Rico's random
one-sided-ramblings and similar ones from scattered points around the
world of help? Surely, you don't believe that just because people such
as Rico discovered Usenet that they're 100% honest and legitimate?
There are so many scenarios that are ignored. How about this one - a
competitor posts some gibberish to cover-up for someone?
The people that post diatribe's such as Ricodjours are generally
obsessive cranks and not themselves entirely free from blame (assuming
that Rico is a real person posting and not a troll). Such people as
Rico are not the people that a reasonable person looks to for advice.
A reasonable person would check with their Better Business Bureau,
contractor's licensing board, assorted insurance agencies, get
references and check on the contractor's work before signing anything.
The original poster did checking. If there's a problem it might get
reported to the some of those places, it might not. Usenet allows
people to find comments about specific businesses and people even if
they are local and that doesn't waste other people's time.
The customer had been considering adding old-style wood floors to other
areas of the location to match, and Floor Surgeons, Inc., lost out on
that work.
The experience was so negative that the customer even began to consider
alternatives to old-style wood flooring.
Capitalism creates many alternatives that help people avoid bad service
providers in old style wood floor installation, finishing and
refinishing. Bad refinishers are one reason why the pre-fab flooring
industry was created and grew so big.
Bad service providers are also a constant inspiration for the "do it
yourself" side of pre-fab wood flooring and for so many other goods and
services. Capitalism provides many ways to avoid having bad people
come into one's home, or even associating with bad providers.
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Posted by The Enigmatic One on July 23, 2006, 4:23 pm
rexy@ij.net says...
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>Bad service providers are also a constant inspiration for the "do it
>yourself" side of pre-fab wood flooring and for so many other goods and
>services. Capitalism provides many ways to avoid having bad people
>come into one's home, or even associating with bad providers.
Ya know what, you actually had some credibility before this post.
Oops.
-Tim
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Posted by Abe on July 23, 2006, 10:13 am
>> I actually find a lot of these helpful when I might be in the process
>> of deciding who,what, when or where in an upcoming project or
>> purchase.
>How are random one-sided-ramblings from scattered points around the
>world of help? Surely, you don't believe that just because the poster
>discovered Usenet that they're 100% honest and legitimate? There are
>so many scenarios that you ignore. How about this one - a competitor
>posts some gibberish to damage someone?
>The people that post diatribe's are generally obsessive cranks and not
>themselves entirely free from blame (assuming that it's a real person
>posting and not a troll). These are not the people that a reasonable
>person looks to for advice. A reasonable person would check with their
>Better Business Bureau, contractor's licensing board, assorted
>insurance agencies, get references and check on the contractor's work
>before signing anything. If there's a problem it gets reported to the
>same agencies.
>
>That way it stays local and doesn't waste other people's time.
Rexy's story rings true. I've had the unfortunate experience to once
hire a contractor similar in attitude and performance as his floor
refinisher. Just because he wanted to vent and warn others in the
third person doesn't make him a crank.
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Posted by RicodJour on July 23, 2006, 12:00 pm
Abe wrote:
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> Rexy's story rings true. I've had the unfortunate experience to once
> hire a contractor similar in attitude and performance as his floor
> refinisher. Just because he wanted to vent and warn others in the
> third person doesn't make him a crank.
Rings true. Hmmm. If I took a real story and simply changed the
contractor's name, for nefarious purposes, would it still "ring true"?
It would, wouldn't it? There's no way to tell whether the story is
true or not. There's no way to tell how much the actual events were
edited.
Look at this another way. If some random person posted a glowing
recommendation for a contractor on Usenet, would you automatically
figure that the contractor is wonderful and hire them without further
investigation based on that random posting? Or would you take the
recommendation with a grain of salt?
Lets review the OP's account:
- anonymous posting (you can't do that with the contractor's licensing
board or BBB)
- third person posting for some reason (attempt to make the crank post
appear more valid?)
- wanted the contractor to use epoxy to cover up termite damage (spell
cheap)
- didn't like the contractor's helper because "he looked like a loser"
- listens in on contractor's phone calls
- didn't insist on stain samples (normally, no samples, don't let them
proceed)
- cares that the contractor calls cigarettes cancer sticks (WTF?)
Check out the OPs posting history.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=23eF5wsAAADaKmcNbLHSywSaMXvFGVZ2&scoring=d
Also check out what he posts and where. He posts long political
diatribes in the most random, unrelated newsgroups. This is a person
desperately seeking attention.
To even up the playing field a bit so it's not one-sided anonymous I'll
provide a little information. Rex Curry is a libertarian, lawyer
(non-practicing?) and general internet crank. You'd think that someone
trained as a lawyer would have the mental wherewithal to locate and
checkout a potential floor refinishing contractor before hiring them.
It's not rocket science.
Instead of protecting himself prior to hiring the contractor the OP is
trying to retaliate against the contractor after the fact.
Were there problems on the job? Absolutely. Is the OP's account of
the vents the complete truth? Not hardly.
I don't see the benefit of relying on "not hardly" posts to locate or
eliminate a contractor from consideration.
R
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