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Floor Surgeons, Inc., Tampa, and Joe Greene are not recommended for floor refinishing rexy 07-22-2006
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Posted by Abe on July 23, 2006, 2:36 pm
>>Rexy's story rings true. I've had the unfortunate experience to once
>>hire a contractor similar in attitude and performance as his floor
>>refinisher. Just because he wanted to vent and warn others in the
>>third person doesn't make him a crank.
>Rings true. Hmmm. If I took a real story and simply changed the
>contractor's name, for nefarious purposes, would it still "ring true"?
>It would, wouldn't it? There's no way to tell whether the story is
>true or not. There's no way to tell how much the actual events were
>edited.
Maybe it just rang true to me because I can identify with it from a
past experience.

>Look at this another way. If some random person posted a glowing
>recommendation for a contractor on Usenet, would you automatically
>figure that the contractor is wonderful and hire them without further
>investigation based on that random posting? Or would you take the
>recommendation with a grain of salt?
Clearly with 2 grains of salt.

>Lets review the OP's account:
>- anonymous posting (you can't do that with the contractor's licensing
>board or BBB)
That's not an issue. I post anonymously also for privacy reasons.

>- third person posting for some reason (attempt to make the crank post
>appear more valid?)
>- wanted the contractor to use epoxy to cover up termite damage (spell
>cheap)
Not an issue either. Cheap doesn't mean untruthful.

>- didn't like the contractor's helper because "he looked like a loser"
He was trying to get the point across that these guys were totally
nonprofessional.

>- listens in on contractor's phone calls
Maybe he couldn't help but overhear because of proximity. Clearly the
contractor wasn't smart enough to take the call privately.

>- didn't insist on stain samples (normally, no samples, don't let them
>proceed)
That's a big mistake, but again not an issue here because he had
decided on a particular stain - he trusted the contractor to use that
stain - and the contractor used a different stain without notice to
customer.

>- cares that the contractor calls cigarettes cancer sticks (WTF?)
He was trying to get across that the contractor wasn't the brightest
bulb.
>
>Check out the OPs posting history.
>http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=23eF5wsAAADaKmcNbLHSywSaMXvFGVZ2&scoring=d
>Also check out what he posts and where. He posts long political
>diatribes in the most random, unrelated newsgroups. This is a person
>desperately seeking attention.
Agreed. He's clearly possessed by something.
>
>To even up the playing field a bit so it's not one-sided anonymous I'll
>provide a little information. Rex Curry is a libertarian, lawyer
>(non-practicing?) and general Internet crank. You'd think that someone
>trained as a lawyer would have the mental wherewithal to locate and
>checkout a potential floor refinishing contractor before hiring them.
>It's not rocket science.
Clearly he messed up by hiring this guy. Big mistake on his part.

>Instead of protecting himself prior to hiring the contractor the OP is
>trying to retaliate against the contractor after the fact.
True.

>Were there problems on the job? Absolutely. Is the OP's account of
>the vents the complete truth? Not hardly.
You cannot know that from the information provided unless you've got
some sort of crystal ball.

>I don't see the benefit of relying on "not hardly" posts to locate or
>eliminate a contractor from consideration.
I agree, but as I said, you cannot arrive at "not hardly" based on the
information provided.


Posted by on July 23, 2006, 3:19 pm
Check out Ricodjour's post. He posts long diatribes in which he only
makes insults and speculates wildly. Ricodjour is a person desperately
seeking attention.

To even up the playing field a bit so it's not one-sided anonymous,
here is more information. Ricodjour hates liberty and he is not lawyer
(is he even employed?) and he is a general internet crank. You'd think
that even someone as challenged as ricodjour would have the mental
wherewithal to understand how to locate and checkout a potential floor
refinishing contractor before hiring him and how to warn others
afterward. It's not rocket science. And yet, ricodjour has not
actually provided any information on the entity named using the methods
that rico babbles about. That is because rico knows that rico is
wrong.

rico does not even know what methods were used in the actual selection
process. rico just speculates wildly and for no apparent purpose than
to cast insults and for no apparent reason. rico is an internet crank.


Instead of protecting himself prior to making his crank posts, rico is
trying to retaliate against after the fact and for no rational reason.

Were there problems on the job? Absolutely. Does rico have any
knowledge concerning the account of the events? Not hardly. Not one
iota.

No one can see the benefit of relying on internet cranks like rico who
admits that he knows nothing about the situation.


Posted by Ed on July 23, 2006, 6:42 pm
wrote:

>Surely, you don't believe that just because the poster
>discovered Usenet that they're 100% honest and legitimate?

No, and the people that actually read my post didn't see where I said,
much less suggested such. Next time read the message you are replying
to and "QUOTING" before you make a fool out of yourself again....


Posted by RicodJour on July 23, 2006, 6:58 pm
Ed wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >Surely, you don't believe that just because the poster
> >discovered Usenet that they're 100% honest and legitimate?
>
> No, and the people that actually read my post didn't see where I said,
> much less suggested such. Next time read the message you are replying
> to and "QUOTING" before you make a fool out of yourself again....

I "quoted" your entire response, so I'm not sure what you mean.

For your convenience, here's the repost:

RicodJour wrote:
> Ed wrote:
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Once in a blue moon it's either an excellent
> > >horror story (always from the homeowner's point of view, of course) or
> > >good troll. Both have their merits.
> >
> > I actually find a lot of these helpful when I might be in the process
> > of deciding who,what, when or where in an upcoming project or
> > purchase.
>
> How are random one-sided-ramblings from scattered points around the
> world of help? Surely, you don't believe that just because the poster
> discovered Usenet that they're 100% honest and legitimate? There are
> so many scenarios that you ignore. How about this one - a competitor
> posts some gibberish to damage someone?
>
> The people that post diatribe's are generally obsessive cranks and not
> themselves entirely free from blame (assuming that it's a real person
> posting and not a troll). These are not the people that a reasonable
> person looks to for advice. A reasonable person would check with their
> Better Business Bureau, contractor's licensing board, assorted
> insurance agencies, get references and check on the contractor's work
> before signing anything. If there's a problem it gets reported to the
> same agencies.
>
> That way it stays local and doesn't waste other people's time.
>
> R

See? No editing, no omissions.

R


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