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For the anti-Craftsman crowd... :) Duane Bozarth 06-18-2005
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 19, 2005, 10:15 am

>
> I've also had a lot of difficulty in finding bearings for other things
> such as P-C sander w/o going back to P-C, so I don't think it's a Sears
> "policy" at all.
>
> IMO, ymmv, $0.02, etc., ...

Sears is not the only one. I wont buy Ryobi either for the same reason
(they make a lot of Craftsman tools too) No matter what the brand, spare
parts are a big markup. If you can find the same pat through industrial
supply houses, they are going to be far cheaper than the same item with the
"genuine XXX brand" sticker on them.

I needed a hydraulic pump for a machine at work. I called the manufacturer
and they wanted $5400, but would give us a 10% discount. Found the same
pump from a hydraulics supply house for $1200. Very common practice.



Posted by Duane Bozarth on June 19, 2005, 10:25 am
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> >
> > I've also had a lot of difficulty in finding bearings for other things
> > such as P-C sander w/o going back to P-C, so I don't think it's a Sears
> > "policy" at all.
> >
> > IMO, ymmv, $0.02, etc., ...
>
> Sears is not the only one. I wont buy Ryobi either for the same reason
> (they make a lot of Craftsman tools too) No matter what the brand, spare
> parts are a big markup. If you can find the same pat through industrial
> supply houses, they are going to be far cheaper than the same item with the
> "genuine XXX brand" sticker on them.
>
> I needed a hydraulic pump for a machine at work. I called the manufacturer
> and they wanted $5400, but would give us a 10% discount. Found the same
> pump from a hydraulics supply house for $1200. Very common practice.

I have no argument that distributor parts are less expensive in general
than OEM, nor do I have any lack of experience in using same. The point
is, Ryobi/Craftsman/whoever aren't making these bearings, etc.,
themsleves, they're buying from the same manufacturers as are
JD/Case-IH/Delta. Whether a particular bearing is available open stock
has more to do w/ sheer volume than any planned obsolescence or attempt
at controlling spare patrs availability.

I had a heck of a time getting a replacement rear wheel bearing for the
old '59 38-series Chevy truck a few years ago when needed replacement
owing to some water having collected in rear end and pitted them
severely. The OEM were Timken, but the particular style is no longer
used in new vehicles and numbers aren't there to continue to produce
it. Finally found some "new old stock", but it took a couple of months
looking.

Small bearings, for example, of the type in many hand tools just are not
"common enough" to make for good markets for replacement--

Posted by John Willis on June 19, 2005, 9:43 am
scribbled this interesting note:

>
>>>
>>> My not liking Shears is their policy of making off-spec parts. So you
>>> can't
>>> get parts through the usual suppliers.
>>
>> So you expect to get JD parts from New Holland?
>
>You can get an awful lot of the bearing, seals, fasteners, etc from any good
>supply house. Not always so easy from Sears branded equipment.
>

We have a Sears concrete mixer. A while back the electrical switch
failed on it. Having a factory Sears repair center not more than a
mile from our house, I went up there to see if they could replace it.
The switch was in a rubber housing (water resistant). They could find
the part, and if it had still been available (listed as NLA) it would
have been about $150.00. So I cut open the rubber housing to see what
the actual switch looked like. I took it out, went to the local mom &
pop hardware store (yes, we a fortunate enough to have a few of those
still around) and found an exact replacement switch for under $5.00.
Just had to fit it back into the rubber housing and seal it back up
with a urethane sealer (NP-1 in this case.)

I spent far less than $145.00 worth of time fixing the problem. Sears
will hold you up on some repairs. Local hardware stores can be your
friend if you know what to look for!:~)


--
John Willis
(Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Posted by Charlie Bress on June 19, 2005, 10:30 am

> scribbled this interesting note:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> My not liking Shears is their policy of making off-spec parts. So you
>>>> can't
>>>> get parts through the usual suppliers.
>>>
>>> So you expect to get JD parts from New Holland?
>>
>>You can get an awful lot of the bearing, seals, fasteners, etc from any
>>good
>>supply house. Not always so easy from Sears branded equipment.
>>
>
> We have a Sears concrete mixer. A while back the electrical switch
> failed on it. Having a factory Sears repair center not more than a
> mile from our house, I went up there to see if they could replace it.
> The switch was in a rubber housing (water resistant). They could find
> the part, and if it had still been available (listed as NLA) it would
> have been about $150.00. So I cut open the rubber housing to see what
> the actual switch looked like. I took it out, went to the local mom &
> pop hardware store (yes, we a fortunate enough to have a few of those
> still around) and found an exact replacement switch for under $5.00.
> Just had to fit it back into the rubber housing and seal it back up
> with a urethane sealer (NP-1 in this case.)
>
> I spent far less than $145.00 worth of time fixing the problem. Sears
> will hold you up on some repairs. Local hardware stores can be your
> friend if you know what to look for!:~)
>
>
> --
> John Willis
> (Remove the Primes before e-mailing me)

Many years ago I had snow blower that used an internal toothed gear as a
speed reducer. When I went to B-S for the replacement I was bent out of
shape over the price. I bitched about it to my neighbor who worked for an
appliance manufacturer. He told to figure repair parts sold for about ten
times the cost of manufacture. The high cost is related (at least in part)
to the mfgr having to hold the part in inventory, tying up the money in the
hope that someday someone would want it. And eventually it got sold or
discarded and then became NLA.

Of course if you are looking for an industry standard part such as a
bearing, switch, belt etc. you have better choices.

Charlie



Posted by Stormin Mormon on June 19, 2005, 5:33 pm
I'd like to be able to use Tecumseh lawn mower parts on a lawn mower with a
Tecumseh engine.

--

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
www.mormons.com


Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> My not liking Shears is their policy of making off-spec parts. So you
can't
> get parts through the usual suppliers.

So you expect to get JD parts from New Holland?



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