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Found crack in cylindrical part inside A/C condenser unit JayN 06-27-2008
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Posted by on June 28, 2008, 9:47 am

>Smarty wrote:
>        I will not venture an opinion on what the item is in the original post,
>but I WILL agree that this newsgroup is unlike any other I have read.

http://tinyurl.com/2yf5o4


>        The poster in this thread never suggested for a minute that he was

        And he got a very fast and very correct and succinct answer to
his question, one that he understood and now knows.

        Then some asshole newbie EE decided to throw some shit around.

        Now you've decided to join in.

        FOAD, the both of you.

>        In recognition to the few in this newsgroup who have replied with civil
>replies, your comments are duly recognized. To those who post to
>mislead or cause harm, you should be ashamed of yourself.

        You should STFU. WHo the fuck are you to be giving anyoen
here a hard time ? Asshole.

>        Now have at it and post your vulgarities and wise remarks, as it
>appears that many of you have few customers to service. I wonder why???

        Maybe it's because I moved out of field work years and years
ago ?


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Posted by KJPRO on June 28, 2008, 10:48 am

> Smarty wrote:
>>
>>> I had my Central A/C tuned up at the beginning of June. It has been
>>> working nicely, I still am getting cooling. My unit is a 4 ton
>>> Carrier system. It is an older system that uses R22.
>>>
>>> Today, I happened to take a peak through the top of the condenser
>>> unit, and noticed that there is a crack in the metal case of light
>>> grey colored cylindrical part.
>>>
>>> Here are links to 2 photos:
>>>
>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeofpch/cracked_ac.jpg
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeofpch/cracked_ac2.jpg
>>>
>>> What part is this? Does the crack in the metal case mean failure will
>>> soon happen...if so how soon? What is the brown stuff I see on the
>>> side of this part below the crack...is this oil? Do I have a freon
>>> leak?
>>>
>>> Nobody mentioned this during my tune-up. From the looks of it, it's
>>> hard to believe the crack didn't exist at the beginning of the month
>>> at all, and they didn't need to add any freon because pressure was
>>> fine, and I'm still getting adequate cooling as far as I can tell.
>>>
>>> Does anything need to be done?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jay
>>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I am guessing that the light-colored cylindrical part you have
>> photographed is a large electrolytic capacitor, typically used to start
>> the outdoor condensing unit. It is very difficult to tell from the photo
>> you provided. It could be a receiver/drier, a low ambient kit, or other
>> refrigerant part, but I doubt it.
>>
>> It is very unlikely that you are leaking freon based on your comment that
>> cooling is adequate. My advice would also be to not worry about this
>> item. If and when it does fail, you will need to deal with it then, most
>> likely with a complaint that your outdoor condensing unit does not appear
>> to be operating.
>>
>> Maybe some of the "experts" on this newsgroup can offer better advice.
>> Based on my participation on Usenet and Arpanet dating back to the
>> 1980's, I must say that I have never seen a more pathetic collection of
>> people than I have encountered here. Many questions are answered with
>> snide, sarcastic remarks by people have sniffed far too many chlorinated
>> and fluorinated hydrocarbons. Some questions are ignored altogether. You
>> might consider posing your question at alt.home.repair or one of the HVAC
>> forums on the Internet. This newsgroup is about as dysfunctional as any I
>> have every seen.
>>
>> Smarty
>>
>>
>
> I will not venture an opinion on what the item is in the original post,
> but I WILL agree that this newsgroup is unlike any other I have read. The
> general view by most, is that a question is posted so that the poster can
> avoid hiring a HVAC pro. Having read many replies to questions posted, I
> can understand why someone would want to avoid such an action. They
> probably fear that one they would hire might turn out to be one of the
> sarcastic "Pros." Not only have many of the replies been not helpful,
> many have suggested actions that would make the situation worse. It is
> one thing to refuse to give an opinion or help, but quite another to
> suggest an action that would damage the unit or cost needless money.
>
> The poster in this thread never suggested for a minute that he was about
> to fix the unit himself, he simply was trying to ascertain if he had a
> serious problem and if it needed immediate attention. Most often the
> recommendation is that a poster hire a pro when he posts a question. That
> is probably good advice in MOST situations. But even when a poster
> reports on a job that a pro had done and whose results were poor, the
> poster is criticized for having chosen the wrong pro. In other words:
> Don't do anything yourself, hire a pro. But if the pro did lousy work, it
> is YOUR fault for having chosen the wrong pro. I cannot understand how a
> person who learned a trade, and presumably is proud of his trade, can
> ignore bad work by others in that trade.
>
> In recognition to the few in this newsgroup who have replied with civil
> replies, your comments are duly recognized. To those who post to mislead
> or cause harm, you should be ashamed of yourself.
>
> Now have at it and post your vulgarities and wise remarks, as it appears
> that many of you have few customers to service. I wonder why???


Oh boy, another asshole who *thinks* everybody deserves FREE advice on
everything and *if* they don't get that, we should be condemed.
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Posted by Big Giant Head on June 28, 2008, 2:31 pm
Yes, there is something peculiar about some (thankfully not all) of the
regulars of alt.hvac that is not seen in other technically oriented groups
or web-based forums. In others if you ask for advice about something that
hints that you are in over your head or creating a danger for yourself or
others they'll certainly tell you so, but nowhere else is there such a
level of condesention and resentment for anyone not part of the high
priesthood asking pretty much anything, even merely, as in this case,
whether or not professional attention is required. It's like they resent
that customers even exist.

Posted by on June 28, 2008, 3:27 pm
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:31:22 -0500, Big Giant Head

>Yes, there is something peculiar about some (thankfully not all) of the
>regulars of alt.hvac that is not seen in other technically oriented groups
>or web-based forums. In others if you ask for advice about something that
>hints that you are in over your head or creating a danger for yourself or
>others they'll certainly tell you so, but nowhere else is there such a
>level of condesention

        Yes, all hvac units have condensation.

>and resentment for anyone not part of the high
>priesthood asking pretty much anything, even merely, as in this case,
>whether or not professional attention is required. It's like they resent
>that customers even exist.

        Asshole - don't give us that 'we're your' customers' bullshit.

        No, you're not. Youre' asshole looking for a freebie ( that's
fine ), and whining about it when you don't get it ( not so fine ).

        Buttwipe.


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Posted by HeyBub on June 28, 2008, 3:58 pm
.p.jm@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>
> Asshole - don't give us that 'we're your' customers' bullshit.
>
> No, you're not. Youre' asshole looking for a freebie ( that's
> fine ), and whining about it when you don't get it ( not so fine ).
>
> Buttwipe.

Do you eat food with that mouth?



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