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Free Air is Inferior paragon2 06-25-2007
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Posted by Clark on June 26, 2007, 4:05 am

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>>How far north do you live? Argon is only good above the 45th parallel.
>
> They make argon at the Argonne National Laboratories, near Chicago.
> Argonne is a trade name.
>>

That doesn't change the recommendation that argon only be used north of the
45th parallel. South of the line, one should use nogra.

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 25, 2007, 3:48 pm

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>
> The guy who sold me my monster oxygen free speaker cables with the
> gold ends said you should only use argon in your tires ;-)

I know you said it in jest, but a lot of people are being sold on nitrogen
in their tires. Stations are getting $5 a tire. They use nitrogen in race
cars and aircraft where it has some benefits, so naturally, someone came up
with the idea of selling it to the gullible public as a real value. .



Posted by Chuck (in SC) on June 25, 2007, 4:19 pm
wrote:

>
>>
>>
>> The guy who sold me my monster oxygen free speaker cables with the
>> gold ends said you should only use argon in your tires ;-)
>
>I know you said it in jest, but a lot of people are being sold on nitrogen
>in their tires. Stations are getting $5 a tire. They use nitrogen in race
>cars and aircraft where it has some benefits, so naturally, someone came up
>with the idea of selling it to the gullible public as a real value. .
>
I'm a airline pilot and I used to fly for a race team..
The only advantages to nitrogen is no Oxy present, dry (easy to have
dry air too.. ) THE reason it's used is compressed cylinder of
Nitrogen, when regulated down to usable pressures, goes a LOOOOONG
way. If you're in pit road,, and using air tools, no compressor is
needed. In Lear jets, a volleyball size/shaped tank at 1700 lbs is
used to "blow" the gear down in an emergency and for emergency
braking.
If the same cubic ft of dry air could be stored in the same size
tank.. that would be used.
Also.. if you're going to pressurize something that has to be
pressurized higher than air compressor system will go safely, you grab
the nitrogen tank...
Chuck

Posted by Stormin Mormon on June 25, 2007, 4:48 pm
Carbon dioxide would do much of that kind of thing. As a
liquified gas, it would seem like it would have more capacity.

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<Chuck (in SC)> wrote in message

: I'm a airline pilot and I used to fly for a race team..
: The only advantages to nitrogen is no Oxy present, dry (easy to
have
: dry air too.. ) THE reason it's used is compressed cylinder of
: Nitrogen, when regulated down to usable pressures, goes a
LOOOOONG
: way. If you're in pit road,, and using air tools, no
compressor is
: needed. In Lear jets, a volleyball size/shaped tank at 1700
lbs is
: used to "blow" the gear down in an emergency and for emergency
: braking.
: If the same cubic ft of dry air could be stored in the same
size
: tank.. that would be used.
: Also.. if you're going to pressurize something that has to be
: pressurized higher than air compressor system will go safely,
you grab
: the nitrogen tank...
: Chuck



Posted by on June 25, 2007, 5:19 pm
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:48:48 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"

>Carbon dioxide would do much of that kind of thing. As a
>liquified gas, it would seem like it would have more capacity.


In fact GM used to have a tiny CO2 tank in the trunk to inflate the
spare in the 70s when the compact, deflated spare was what you got in
a compact car. It was about an inch bigger than the bare rim deflated.
The problem was what do you do with the bad tire you replaced. It
would not fit back in the tiny hole the spare was in.

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