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Freezer problem Woodie 07-31-2008
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Posted by on July 31, 2008, 5:26 pm


> In the freezer portion of my fridge I've started having a problem with
> frost build-up.
> I went on a four day trip, and when I came back everything in the
> freezer had a thick coating of frosty ice crystals.
> I thought perhaps I had left the door cracked a bit so I cleaned off the
> frost, checked the door seals - they seem air tight, and closed it back u=
p.
> But the frost continues to build no matter what I do. My first thought
> was an air leak letting humidity into the freezer, but the seals seem fin=
e.
> It cools fine - i can turn the thermostat down cold enough to freeze
> everything in the fridge portion too.
>
> What else can cause this?


I am still betting on the door seal. That frost is water. The
water has to get there somehow. It does come out of the air.

Posted by charlie on July 31, 2008, 5:44 pm



> In the freezer portion of my fridge I've started having a problem with
> frost build-up.
> I went on a four day trip, and when I came back everything in the
> freezer had a thick coating of frosty ice crystals.
> I thought perhaps I had left the door cracked a bit so I cleaned off the
> frost, checked the door seals - they seem air tight, and closed it back
> up.
> But the frost continues to build no matter what I do. My first thought
> was an air leak letting humidity into the freezer, but the seals seem
> fine.
> It cools fine - i can turn the thermostat down cold enough to freeze
> everything in the fridge portion too.
>
> What else can cause this?


I am still betting on the door seal. That frost is water. The
water has to get there somehow. It does come out of the air.

--

there's something wrong with the defrost, probably the relay.



Posted by on August 1, 2008, 7:35 am


wrote:
>
>
> > In the freezer portion of my fridge I've started having a problem with
> > frost build-up.
> > I went on a four day trip, and when I came back everything in the
> > freezer had a thick coating of frosty ice crystals.
> > I thought perhaps I had left the door cracked a bit so I cleaned off th=
e
> > frost, checked the door seals - they seem air tight, and closed it back
> > up.
> > But the frost continues to build no matter what I do. My first thought
> > was an air leak letting humidity into the freezer, but the seals seem
> > fine.
> > It cools fine - i can turn the thermostat down cold enough to freeze
> > everything in the fridge portion too.
>
> > What else can cause this?
>
> =A0 =A0I am still betting on the door seal. =A0That frost is water. =A0Th=
e
> water has to get there somehow. =A0It does come out of the air.
>
> --
>
> there's something wrong with the defrost, probably the relay.


That would be my suspicion too. Door seals don't fail on 3 year old
fridges and with a failing seal, the problem comes about slowly, not
all of a sudden. If the door is closing properly, then the automatic
defrost is likely not working.

Posted by Art Todesco on August 1, 2008, 7:58 am


trader4@optonline.net wrote:
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> In the freezer portion of my fridge I've started having a problem with
>>> frost build-up.
>>> I went on a four day trip, and when I came back everything in the
>>> freezer had a thick coating of frosty ice crystals.
>>> I thought perhaps I had left the door cracked a bit so I cleaned off the
>>> frost, checked the door seals - they seem air tight, and closed it back
>>> up.
>>> But the frost continues to build no matter what I do. My first thought
>>> was an air leak letting humidity into the freezer, but the seals seem
>>> fine.
>>> It cools fine - i can turn the thermostat down cold enough to freeze
>>> everything in the fridge portion too.
>>> What else can cause this?
>> I am still betting on the door seal. That frost is water. The
>> water has to get there somehow. It does come out of the air.
>>
>> --
>>
>> there's something wrong with the defrost, probably the relay.
>
>
> That would be my suspicion too. Door seals don't fail on 3 year old
> fridges and with a failing seal, the problem comes about slowly, not
> all of a sudden. If the door is closing properly, then the automatic
> defrost is likely not working.
But, if it were the defrost cycle, it
would not usually cool properly. I have
had that problem recently with a Kitchen
Aid built in .... well actually, 2
years ago and now again recently. Both
the fridge and freezer stopped
cooling properly. 2 years ago, I shut
it down and called the service
company. They came out, complained that
I shut it off, said I needed
a new compressor (because it was "5
years since last replaced") and left.
After they left (leaving the unit on) I
noticed it was cooling normally. So
I watched it. It worked for 2 years
perfectly. And then about a month
ago it iced up. The coils were nice and
frosty. I disassemble the coil
area in the freezer, checked that the
ice melting heater had continuity and
checked the defrost temperature sensor,
which click at about 32 degrees.
I assumed it must be the 3rd and last
component in the defrost cycle, the
timer. For $20, I replaced the timer
and it has been working since. Also
it now runs much less with this newly
designed timer. I think the old design
timer defrosted much more than necessary.

Anyway, when my defrost cycle was bad, I
really didn't get too much
frost on anything except the coils ...
maybe a little more. But, if it were
really humid in the OP's area and the
door opened a lot, that may account
for the frost, if the defrost was not
properly working.

Posted by charlie on August 1, 2008, 1:04 pm



> trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the freezer portion of my fridge I've started having a problem with
>>>> frost build-up.
>>>> I went on a four day trip, and when I came back everything in the
>>>> freezer had a thick coating of frosty ice crystals.
>>>> I thought perhaps I had left the door cracked a bit so I cleaned off
>>>> the
>>>> frost, checked the door seals - they seem air tight, and closed it back
>>>> up.
>>>> But the frost continues to build no matter what I do. My first thought
>>>> was an air leak letting humidity into the freezer, but the seals seem
>>>> fine.
>>>> It cools fine - i can turn the thermostat down cold enough to freeze
>>>> everything in the fridge portion too.
>>>> What else can cause this?
>>> I am still betting on the door seal. That frost is water. The
>>> water has to get there somehow. It does come out of the air.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> there's something wrong with the defrost, probably the relay.
>>
>>
>> That would be my suspicion too. Door seals don't fail on 3 year old
>> fridges and with a failing seal, the problem comes about slowly, not
>> all of a sudden. If the door is closing properly, then the automatic
>> defrost is likely not working.
> But, if it were the defrost cycle, it would not usually cool properly. I
> have
> had that problem recently with a Kitchen Aid built in .... well actually,
> 2
> years ago and now again recently. Both the fridge and freezer stopped
> cooling properly. 2 years ago, I shut it down and called the service
> company. They came out, complained that I shut it off, said I needed
> a new compressor (because it was "5 years since last replaced") and left.
> After they left (leaving the unit on) I noticed it was cooling normally.
> So
> I watched it. It worked for 2 years perfectly. And then about a month
> ago it iced up. The coils were nice and frosty. I disassemble the coil
> area in the freezer, checked that the ice melting heater had continuity
> and
> checked the defrost temperature sensor, which click at about 32 degrees.
> I assumed it must be the 3rd and last component in the defrost cycle, the
> timer. For $20, I replaced the timer and it has been working since. Also
> it now runs much less with this newly designed timer. I think the old
> design
> timer defrosted much more than necessary.
>
> Anyway, when my defrost cycle was bad, I really didn't get too much
> frost on anything except the coils ... maybe a little more. But, if it
> were
> really humid in the OP's area and the door opened a lot, that may account
> for the frost, if the defrost was not properly working.

well, i had exactly the same problem as the OP, and it was the defrost
relay. it would get cold, but would build up 2" of ice in a couple of days
on the back wall of the freezer (humid part of summer in phoenix). it still
kept good temps in both the freezer and fridge.



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