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Freon Leak Scrot Hamilton 07-17-2006
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Posted by Scrot Hamilton on July 17, 2006, 1:01 pm
My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
the system for $4500.

This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
seems to be cooling down nicely.

Thanks in advance.


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Posted by Pete C. on July 17, 2006, 1:24 pm
Scrot Hamilton wrote:
>
> My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
> the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
> particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
> pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
> was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> the system for $4500.
>
> This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
> check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
> unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
> seems to be cooling down nicely.
>
> Thanks in advance.

The tech is certainly correct that recharging the Freon is only a
temporary fix. Depending on the size of the leak it might only last a
day or two or it might last months. Either way if it leaked out once it
will leak out again.

Certainly unless the whole system is clearly in terrible condition a
proper leak detector should be used to isolate the location of the leak.
If it's due to corrosion then certainly at least the area / components
that are corroded should be replaced. Depending on the extent of the
damage it may be reasonable to replace the whole system.

If the leak is due to a refrigerant line rubbing against something from
vibration and wearing a hole in the line (I've seen this happen) then it
is almost certainly more reasonable to repair the line and support it
away from the point where it was rubbing.

Certainly recommending replacement of a 10yr old system without any more
diagnosis than finding a low charge is not acceptable.

Pete C.

Posted by George on July 17, 2006, 1:43 pm
Call another repair man, an honest, compentent one would be best. Any
A/C contractor/repairman worth his weight in salt should be able to
detect the leak source and repair it.Unless your unit is in really
really bad shape because of a serious lack of maintenance or abuse it
should be repairable. 10 years is NOT that old and any repairman that
suggests that replacement is the best or only option is a thief. Just
for clarity let me repeat.... any repairman that suggests that
replacement is the best or only option is a thief!
When the time DOES come to replace your unit, please, get several
quotes from different contractors and ask for advice from
family,friends and neighbors if necessary to make sure your getting a
quality unit, properly installed at a fair price.
It is very unfortunate but the heating a/c business is full of shady
operators that seem to have no qualms about cheating people.

Good Luck
George


Scrot Hamilton wrote:
> My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
> the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
> particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
> pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
> was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> the system for $4500.
>
> This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
> check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
> unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
> seems to be cooling down nicely.
>
> Thanks in advance.


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on July 17, 2006, 10:14 pm

> He said there
> was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> the system for $4500.
>

You got lucky if it is only $4500. If the radiator in your car started to
leak, you'd have to buy a new car for $25k to $35k.

I'd call another service guy.



Posted by STravis on July 17, 2006, 10:56 pm

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > He said there
> > was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> > the system for $4500.
> >
>
> You got lucky if it is only $4500. If the radiator in your car started to
> leak, you'd have to buy a new car for $25k to $35k.

So, should he be looking to replace the AC unit or should he be looking
for a new house? :)
>
> I'd call another service guy.

No kidding...and keep this one's phone number handy so that you NEVER
call him again by accident.


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