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Freon Leak Scrot Hamilton 07-17-2006
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Posted by Tom The Great on July 19, 2006, 1:01 pm
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:12:30 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

>wrote:
>
>>Something smells VERY fishy. He was there for a service call and
>>didn't try to check the obvious places for leaks?
>
>
>In all fairness you can't say this unless you know how old the machine
>is and what the SEER is. At a certain point the most responsible
>answer might be not to spend any money on an old machine


'most responsible' ? Usually a term used by technicians to soften the
blow they are going to only tell you about the high cost option.

:p

tom

Posted by Woodenhead on July 20, 2006, 10:34 pm

Tom The Great wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:12:30 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Something smells VERY fishy. He was there for a service call and
> >>didn't try to check the obvious places for leaks?
> >
> >
> >In all fairness you can't say this unless you know how old the machine
> >is and what the SEER is. At a certain point the most responsible
> >answer might be not to spend any money on an old machine
>
>
> 'most responsible' ? Usually a term used by technicians to soften the
> blow they are going to only tell you about the high cost option.
>
> :p
>
> tom


Posted by Terry on July 21, 2006, 9:15 am
wrote:

>
>Tom The Great wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:12:30 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Something smells VERY fishy. He was there for a service call and
>> >>didn't try to check the obvious places for leaks?
>> >
>> >
>> >In all fairness you can't say this unless you know how old the machine
>> >is and what the SEER is. At a certain point the most responsible
>> >answer might be not to spend any money on an old machine
>>
>>
>> 'most responsible' ? Usually a term used by technicians to soften the
>> blow they are going to only tell you about the high cost option.
>>

FWIW -- I'm a customer, not a serviice guy. I just had a leak in my 20
year old heat-pump system. The pressure was only partially down.

In this part of the country, lifetimes for heat pumps are around 12 to
15 years, so this unit doesn't have much time left. The technician was
willing to do a leak test, but that plus the refil would be over $500,
and it doesn't make sense to put that much money into it.

His recommendation, and what I did, was to fill the system (took 4
pounds), and see what happens. If it stops working again right away,
bite the bullet and replace the unit. However, it is likely to be a
slow leak (since it wasn't all gone), so I may get more service out of
the unit. And that's in fact what happened. It's been a month and a
half, and it's still working well.

I agree that it depends on how old the unit is.

I will point out that the tech explained the choices, made his
recommendation, and let me make the decision.

T.

Posted by JimL on July 18, 2006, 5:51 pm
wrote:

>My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
>the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
>particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
>pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
>was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
>the system for $4500.
>
>This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
>check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
>unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
>seems to be cooling down nicely.
>
>Thanks in advance.

I agree. The guy is a crook. But then, most hvac guys are
according to all the TV magazine Dateline/60 minute type shows..






Posted by Jeff Wisnia on July 18, 2006, 6:31 pm
JimL wrote:
> wrote:
>
>
>>My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
>>the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
>>particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
>>pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
>>was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
>>the system for $4500.
>>
>>This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
>>check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
>>unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
>>seems to be cooling down nicely.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>
>
> I agree. The guy is a crook. But then, most hvac guys are
> according to all the TV magazine Dateline/60 minute type shows..
>
>
>
>
>

This is a rhetorical question, but what right business does an HVAC guy
have tputting freon into a system he says he knows it will leak out of?

Doesn't that violate the spirit, if not the letter, of the regs/laws
covering intentional release of freon into the atmosphere?

Modern home HVAC systems are designed to be completely effectively leak
free if installed correctly. If the freaon leaks out it means something
has developed a crack or other opening which should be repaired.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

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