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Freon Leak Scrot Hamilton 07-17-2006
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Posted by JimL on July 18, 2006, 10:58 pm
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:19 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
>JimL wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
>>>the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
>>>particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
>>>pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
>>>was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
>>>the system for $4500.
>>>
>>>This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
>>>check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
>>>unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
>>>seems to be cooling down nicely.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>> I agree. The guy is a crook. But then, most hvac guys are
>> according to all the TV magazine Dateline/60 minute type shows..
>
>This is a rhetorical question, but what right business does an HVAC guy
>have tputting freon into a system he says he knows it will leak out of?
>
>Doesn't that violate the spirit, if not the letter, of the regs/laws
>covering intentional release of freon into the atmosphere?
>
>Modern home HVAC systems are designed to be completely effectively leak
>free if installed correctly. If the freaon leaks out it means something
>has developed a crack or other opening which should be repaired.
>
>Jeff

The regs specifically exempt adding freon for leaks for small
systems.

Also, when no funds exist for repair, are you going choose to let
grandma die of a heat stroke or add some freon to the system?


Posted by HeatMan on July 20, 2006, 10:19 pm

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:19 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
> >JimL wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
> >>>the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
> >>>particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
> >>>pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
> >>>was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> >>>the system for $4500.
> >>>
> >>>This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
> >>>check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
> >>>unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
> >>>seems to be cooling down nicely.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> I agree. The guy is a crook. But then, most hvac guys are
> >> according to all the TV magazine Dateline/60 minute type shows..
> >
> >This is a rhetorical question, but what right business does an HVAC guy
> >have tputting freon into a system he says he knows it will leak out of?
> >
> >Doesn't that violate the spirit, if not the letter, of the regs/laws
> >covering intentional release of freon into the atmosphere?
> >
> >Modern home HVAC systems are designed to be completely effectively leak
> >free if installed correctly. If the freaon leaks out it means something
> >has developed a crack or other opening which should be repaired.
> >
> >Jeff
>
> The regs specifically exempt adding freon for leaks for small
> systems.
>

FWIW, 'small systems' hold less than 50 pounds of refrigerant.


> Also, when no funds exist for repair, are you going choose to let
> grandma die of a heat stroke or add some freon to the system?
>



Posted by Woodenhead on July 20, 2006, 10:55 pm

JimL wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:19 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
> >JimL wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
> >>>the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
> >>>particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
> >>>pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
> >>>was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> >>>the system for $4500.
> >>>
> >>>This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
> >>>check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
> >>>unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
> >>>seems to be cooling down nicely.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> I agree. The guy is a crook. But then, most hvac guys are
> >> according to all the TV magazine Dateline/60 minute type shows..
> >
> >This is a rhetorical question, but what right business does an HVAC guy
> >have tputting freon into a system he says he knows it will leak out of?
> >
> >Doesn't that violate the spirit, if not the letter, of the regs/laws
> >covering intentional release of freon into the atmosphere?
> >
> >Modern home HVAC systems are designed to be completely effectively leak
> >free if installed correctly. If the freaon leaks out it means something
> >has developed a crack or other opening which should be repaired.
> >
> >Jeff
>
> The regs specifically exempt adding freon for leaks for small
> systems.
>
> Also, when no funds exist for repair, are you going choose to let
> grandma die of a heat stroke or add some freon to the system? Probaly not add
freon if i really want to work next week or next year as I have to acount for
the freon when I do my aduite of usage at week end.


Posted by hindu on July 19, 2006, 12:05 am

Scrot Hamilton wrote:
> My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
> the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
> particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
> pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
> was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> the system for $4500.
>
> This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
> check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
> unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
> seems to be cooling down nicely.
>
> Thanks in advance.


Posted by Scrot Hamilton on July 19, 2006, 5:45 pm
What's a reasonable expectation of the lifespan of one of these
systems? If the unit were 15-20 years old would replacing the entire
thing make sense?

I'm told the current SEER rating is about an 8 on this unit - servicing
a 1600 square foot 3 level townhouse. Evidently it's builder grade and
the reccommendation from the technician/thief was that I go with a 14
SEER dual speed fan unit.


hindu wrote:
> Scrot Hamilton wrote:
> > My central AC unit (10 year old Carrier system) was not cooling down
> > the house. I noticed that the air coming off the condensor was not
> > particularly warm. The repair guy showed up and checked the freon
> > pressure and said it was ~20psi and should be at ~70psi. He said there
> > was most likely a leak in the system and that he reccommended replacing
> > the system for $4500.
> >
> > This seemed excessive and I was wondering if there's a good way to
> > check the system for a leak? In the meantime, I had him recharge the
> > unit (something that he insisted would be a temporary fix). The house
> > seems to be cooling down nicely.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.


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