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Posted by Tony Hwang on May 1, 2008, 11:34 pm
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>>Quickest way is redo them after cutting the joint. Sorry to say it but
>>poor workmanship! Clean, flux, heat properly and flow the solder. If
>>water drops are present near the joint stuff a piece of bread to soak it
>>up. When your water starts to flow break will dissolve and come out of
>>faucet/taps.
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>
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> I know it was poor workmanship. I'm a rookie when it comes to soldering
joints
> and these were in the crawl space under the house. Not enough headroom to
kneel
> and my arms weren't quite long enough to lay supine and still reach
comfortably.
> I consider myself fortunate I didn't catch anything on fire.
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>
>
Hi,
Piece of shhet metal can be used for flame shield while soldering.
I know I've been there and done that. LOL. Doing it first time right is
easier said than done. Nowadays most is done with PEX and crimping ring.
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Posted by Red Green on May 2, 2008, 12:07 am
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote in
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Quickest way is redo them after cutting the joint. Sorry to say it
>> but poor workmanship! Clean, flux, heat properly and flow the solder.
>> If water drops are present near the joint stuff a piece of bread to
>> soak it up. When your water starts to flow break will dissolve and
>> come out of faucet/taps.
>
>
> I know it was poor workmanship. I'm a rookie when it comes to
> soldering joints and these were in the crawl space under the house.
> Not enough headroom to kneel and my arms weren't quite long enough to
> lay supine and still reach comfortably. I consider myself fortunate I
> didn't catch anything on fire.
>
>
>
> I know it was poor workmanship.
Absolutely Mortimer! The rest of us in here were born with a fear of fire
and the ability to sweat fittings. :-)
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Posted by Jim Redelfs on May 2, 2008, 7:29 am
> The rest of us in here were born with a fear of fire
Oh, yeah? I LOVE fire. I had pyromaniacal tendencies as a child but
was able to keep a lid on them. Fortunately, I never got into arson.
The ban on outdoor burning in the city, the waning of youth and a couple
of potentially BAD gasoline accidents over the years, including one
fire, put it all behind me.
> and the ability to sweat fittings. :-)
Uh, OK. Like Mortimer here, I promise to bare my soul and tell you when
I have sweat my FIRST fitting.
I was the only 16-year-old I knew that had his own mechanic. No joke.
He and I met in grade school.
I am now blessed with the genuine, life-long friendship of a gentleman
that, among MANY, other things, is a good plumber. The other night, he
and I (mostly he) replaced my sister's water heater. Thanks, JP.
--
:)
JR
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Posted by on May 2, 2008, 6:23 am
On Thu, 1 May 2008 23:17:36 -0400, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote:
>Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Quickest way is redo them after cutting the joint. Sorry to say it but
>> poor workmanship! Clean, flux, heat properly and flow the solder. If
>> water drops are present near the joint stuff a piece of bread to soak it
>> up. When your water starts to flow break will dissolve and come out of
>> faucet/taps.
>
>
>I know it was poor workmanship. I'm a rookie when it comes to soldering joints
>and these were in the crawl space under the house. Not enough headroom to
kneel
>and my arms weren't quite long enough to lay supine and still reach
comfortably.
>I consider myself fortunate I didn't catch anything on fire.
I have one of those trigger spray bottles from the Home Depot that I use to wet
down wood behind where I'm soldering. I also have a thin sheet of aluminum that
I sometimes use as a shield if the joint is really close to the wood.
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Posted by Jim Redelfs on May 2, 2008, 7:38 am
wrote:
> I have one of those trigger spray bottles from the Home Depot that
> I use to wet down wood behind where I'm soldering. I also have a
> thin sheet of aluminum that I sometimes use as a shield if the
> joint is really close to the wood.
That reveals the care, and probably good technique, of a craftsman.
If you take the time to do this while working under professional
conditions (on the clock), more the better with "hats off" to whomever
is paying you for allowing you the time to care.
I suspect that many plumbers already have leather gloves with them and,
after sweating the joint, simply STUB OUT any little fire they MAY have
started. Most such locations are usually little more than a little,
black soot on the wooden member.
As the utility worker denizen of many a crawl space, I cannot tell you
the number of "torched", wooden members I have seen adjoining a plumbing
joint. I do NOT, however, recall anything particularly bad. It's more
unsightly than anything else, really - as long as they extinguish
whatever they may have inadvertently ignited.
I assume the code requires protection of adjoining members when
soldering a plumbing joint.
--
:)
JR
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