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Frozen well pump - help! FragileWarrior 02-04-2007
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Posted by RBM on February 4, 2007, 8:32 am


Now you're cookin, (figuratively) that makes more sense. The tent idea
sounds good. I hope you're not in Chicago where it's supposed to be 30
below. Good luck



>
>> I'm not getting the setup. It seems like if you had a deep well
>> (submersible) pump, you wouldn't need one at ground level.
>
> Right. I didn't know the right words. Someone mentioned the piece at the
> ground level is a riser spigot.
>
>> It may just
>> be a shallow well pump, In any event, if you allowed water up the pipe
>> and into the pump housing, if probably froze at the top of the pipe
>> and in the housing. If you can do it yourself, do as Ed suggested with
>> the pump. The pipe feeding the pump may be frozen near the surface as
>> well and need the torch. Also be careful not to drop that pipe down
>> the well. Tie a rope to it before you disconnect it. If you can't do
>> it yourself, I'd call well people first,before plumbers
>
> I did the torch thing until my legs froze off last night. I don't think
> my
> torch was big enough to do anything but thaw a localized area.
>
> I'm going to make one last ditch effort by setting up a sawhorse/tarp
> house
> around the spigot and put some heat lamps out there. If that doesn't
> work,
> then a well repairman will be summoned.
>
> Thanks.



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Posted by marson on February 4, 2007, 9:37 am


> Now you're cookin, (figuratively) that makes more sense. The tent idea
> sounds good. I hope you're not in Chicago where it's supposed to be 30
> below. Good luck
>
>
>
>
> >> I'm not getting the setup. It seems like if you had a deep well
> >> (submersible) pump, you wouldn't need one at ground level.
>
> > Right. I didn't know the right words. Someone mentioned the piece at the
> > ground level is a riser spigot.
>
> >> It may just
> >> be a shallow well pump, In any event, if you allowed water up the pipe
> >> and into the pump housing, if probably froze at the top of the pipe
> >> and in the housing. If you can do it yourself, do as Ed suggested with
> >> the pump. The pipe feeding the pump may be frozen near the surface as
> >> well and need the torch. Also be careful not to drop that pipe down
> >> the well. Tie a rope to it before you disconnect it. If you can't do
> >> it yourself, I'd call well people first,before plumbers
>
> > I did the torch thing until my legs froze off last night. I don't think
> > my
> > torch was big enough to do anything but thaw a localized area.
>
> > I'm going to make one last ditch effort by setting up a sawhorse/tarp
> > house
> > around the spigot and put some heat lamps out there. If that doesn't
> > work,
> > then a well repairman will be summoned.
>
> > Thanks.

What do you mean by the electric pump in the well? If it is a shallow
well pump in some sort of a pit, it is possible that it froze as well.
Usually on those, the pressure switch freezes first and causes the
pump to stop operating. If you have such a pump, put a heat lamp on
it. If you have a submersible pump, it is unlikely to be damaged.
I'm surprised you haven't been able to thaw the spigot. Is this one of
the setups that has a pipe sticking out of the ground with an orange
handle that you pull up to turn the water on? I'd call that a
hydrant. Perhaps the ice blockage extends under the level of the
ground a bit. It shouldn't be a big deal to thaw the upper portion,
but thawing the blockage below the surface would take some doing. Put
a torch right on the pipe where it enters the ground. At any rate,
the fact that you left the handle up is a good thing, since as it
froze, the expanding water would have a place to go.


Posted by Steve Barker on February 4, 2007, 1:17 pm


If he would have left the handle down, then the water would have drained
back down. That how a freeze proof hydrant work. And that's what it sounds
like he has.
see:
http://www.woodfordmfg.com/Woodford/Yard_Hydrant_Pages/how_fpyh_works.htm
--
Steve Barker


At any rate,
> the fact that you left the handle up is a good thing, since as it
> froze, the expanding water would have a place to go.
>



Posted by FragileWarrior on February 4, 2007, 1:19 pm



> If he would have left the handle down, then the water would have
> drained back down. That how a freeze proof hydrant work. And that's
> what it sounds like he has.
> see:
> http://www.woodfordmfg.com/Woodford/Yard_Hydrant_Pages/how_fpyh_works.h
> tm

She. IF SHE... City girl.

And if it hadn't been at the end of a very long and tiring day, the handle
would have been down. In two years, I never used it and forgot to close it
before. But, as my luck would have it, it happened when it was six degrees
outside. :(

Posted by Steve Barker on February 4, 2007, 2:04 pm


so sorry for the gender mistake. What are you having to water hourly?

--
Steve Barker




>> She. IF SHE... City girl.
>
> And if it hadn't been at the end of a very long and tiring day, the handle
> would have been down. In two years, I never used it and forgot to close
> it
> before. But, as my luck would have it, it happened when it was six
> degrees
> outside. :(



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