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GFCI Troubleshooting Robert Green 10-15-2009
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Posted by Robert Green on October 15, 2009, 2:18 am


I've had a GFCI outlet that powers a refrigerator and some kitchen and
basement outlets trip twice within the last year. I've reset it after each
trip and it seems to go another six months before it trips again.

What's the best way to determine if this is just a random event or whether
the GFCI is pointing toward a potential shock hazard?

--
Bobby G.



Posted by Screed on October 15, 2009, 6:06 am



> I've had a GFCI outlet that powers a refrigerator and some kitchen and
> basement outlets trip twice within the last year. I've reset it after
> each trip and it seems to go another six months before it trips again.
>
> What's the best way to determine if this is just a random event or
> whether the GFCI is pointing toward a potential shock hazard?
>
> --
> Bobby G.
>
>
>

Refrigerators require their own dedicated circuit with no GFCI.

Kitchen receptacles require their own dedicated circuit/'s as well, They
need to be GFCI protected only if the receptacle is approximately five feet
from a water source (sink).

The occasional tripping maybe to due to the fridge motor kicking on while a
toaster or some other device is drawing power. Even a plug being pulled
quickly from a receptacle can arc and cause a trip of the GFCI. Regardless,
your circuit configuration is not acceptable under the current electrical
codes.

You can buy inexpensive receptacle testers that will test a GFCI and other
receptacles for proper grounding. As long as the receptacle is properly
grounded, short circuits will go to ground and shock hazard will be
minimal.

Diagnosing electrical problems without looking at them is difficult as one
cannot determine the quality of the workmanship that went into the initial
wiring of the circuits.


Good Luck

Posted by RBM on October 15, 2009, 6:56 am



>> I've had a GFCI outlet that powers a refrigerator and some kitchen and
>> basement outlets trip twice within the last year. I've reset it after
>> each trip and it seems to go another six months before it trips again.
>> What's the best way to determine if this is just a random event or
>> whether the GFCI is pointing toward a potential shock hazard?
>> --
>> Bobby G.
> Refrigerators require their own dedicated circuit with no GFCI.


The Nec doesn't required dedicated circuit for a refrigerator
> Kitchen receptacles require their own dedicated circuit/'s as well, They
> need to be GFCI protected only if the receptacle is approximately five
> feet
> from a water source (sink).


The Nec requires ALL counter top and island receptacles to be gfci protected

> The occasional tripping maybe to due to the fridge motor kicking on while
> a
> toaster or some other device is drawing power. Even a plug being pulled
> quickly from a receptacle can arc and cause a trip of the GFCI.
> Regardless,
> your circuit configuration is not acceptable under the current electrical
> codes.
> You can buy inexpensive receptacle testers that will test a GFCI and other
> receptacles for proper grounding. As long as the receptacle is properly
> grounded, short circuits will go to ground and shock hazard will be
> minimal.
> Diagnosing electrical problems without looking at them is difficult as one
> cannot determine the quality of the workmanship that went into the initial
> wiring of the circuits.
> Good Luck



Posted by Screed on October 15, 2009, 7:29 am



>>> I've had a GFCI outlet that powers a refrigerator and some kitchen
>>> and basement outlets trip twice within the last year. I've reset it
>>> after each trip and it seems to go another six months before it
>>> trips again.
>>> What's the best way to determine if this is just a random event or
>>> whether the GFCI is pointing toward a potential shock hazard?
>>> --
>>> Bobby G.
>> Refrigerators require their own dedicated circuit with no GFCI.
>
>
> The Nec doesn't required dedicated circuit for a refrigerator
>> Kitchen receptacles require their own dedicated circuit/'s as well,
>> They need to be GFCI protected only if the receptacle is
>> approximately five feet
>> from a water source (sink).
>
>
> The Nec requires ALL counter top and island receptacles to be gfci
> protected
>
>> The occasional tripping maybe to due to the fridge motor kicking on
>> while a
>> toaster or some other device is drawing power. Even a plug being
>> pulled quickly from a receptacle can arc and cause a trip of the
>> GFCI. Regardless,
>> your circuit configuration is not acceptable under the current
>> electrical codes.
>> You can buy inexpensive receptacle testers that will test a GFCI and
>> other receptacles for proper grounding. As long as the receptacle is
>> properly grounded, short circuits will go to ground and shock hazard
>> will be minimal.
>> Diagnosing electrical problems without looking at them is difficult
>> as one cannot determine the quality of the workmanship that went into
>> the initial wiring of the circuits.
>> Good Luck
>
>
>

I'm replying from Canada, our CEC (Canadian Electrical Code) differs in
those respects from the NEC I'm Guessing.


The CEC States - "each receptacle installed for a refrigerator shall be
supplied by a branch circuit that does not supply any other outlets....."

We only GFCI receptacles 1.5m or 4.921ft in any direction from sinks as
of yet.

We also require a deicated circuit for the microwave.




Posted by RBM on October 15, 2009, 3:16 pm



>>>> I've had a GFCI outlet that powers a refrigerator and some kitchen
>>>> and basement outlets trip twice within the last year. I've reset it
>>>> after each trip and it seems to go another six months before it
>>>> trips again.
>>>> What's the best way to determine if this is just a random event or
>>>> whether the GFCI is pointing toward a potential shock hazard?
>>>> --
>>>> Bobby G.
>>> Refrigerators require their own dedicated circuit with no GFCI.
>> The Nec doesn't required dedicated circuit for a refrigerator
>>> Kitchen receptacles require their own dedicated circuit/'s as well,
>>> They need to be GFCI protected only if the receptacle is
>>> approximately five feet
>>> from a water source (sink).
>> The Nec requires ALL counter top and island receptacles to be gfci
>> protected
>>> The occasional tripping maybe to due to the fridge motor kicking on
>>> while a
>>> toaster or some other device is drawing power. Even a plug being
>>> pulled quickly from a receptacle can arc and cause a trip of the
>>> GFCI. Regardless,
>>> your circuit configuration is not acceptable under the current
>>> electrical codes.
>>> You can buy inexpensive receptacle testers that will test a GFCI and
>>> other receptacles for proper grounding. As long as the receptacle is
>>> properly grounded, short circuits will go to ground and shock hazard
>>> will be minimal.
>>> Diagnosing electrical problems without looking at them is difficult
>>> as one cannot determine the quality of the workmanship that went into
>>> the initial wiring of the circuits.
>>> Good Luck
> I'm replying from Canada, our CEC (Canadian Electrical Code) differs in
> those respects from the NEC I'm Guessing.
> The CEC States - "each receptacle installed for a refrigerator shall be
> supplied by a branch circuit that does not supply any other outlets....."
> We only GFCI receptacles 1.5m or 4.921ft in any direction from sinks as
> of yet.
> We also require a deicated circuit for the microwave.


Don't know where the op is from, or where you're from, so I'm just
specifying U.S. code
>



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