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GFCI question DB 03-29-2007
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Posted by DB on March 29, 2007, 10:39 pm

> After the last one had me going, I can't wait to see how this one
> transpires..
> Searcher
>
The last one In retrospect dumping the salt OUT OF the bags into wheel
barrow ( clean) spreading around the pool with shovel might of been a better
idea, to bad I didn't think of that.



Posted by RBM on March 29, 2007, 10:47 pm


No, nothing wrong with that. Just make sure the terminals are tight on the
wires. My preference is to splice the wires together with pigtails to the
outlet




> I'm putting a GFCI in a bathroom. Ideally I would use the load terminals
> and protect the other outlets downstream too. Unfortunately down line from
> the GFCI is a refrigerator. I don't want the fridge on a GFCI circuit
> because they occaisionally phantom trip and I don't want a bunch of
> spoiled food. The GFCI has 4 terminals for Line, 2 neutral and 2 hot and 4
> terminals for load 2 neutral and 2 hot. Is there any reason including the
> NEC that the load wires cannot just be wired to the extra line terminals
> to bypass the GFCI and allow power to the fridge even if the GFCI trips?
> Yes I understand none of the outlets after the GFCI will be protected as
> they would be if they were wired to "load", and I will take care of that
> when I add GFCI to the kitchenette where the fridge is in whatever way
> will work best depending on exactly where, electrically speaking, in the
> daisy chain the fridge outlet is. The GFCI is one of the idiot proof ones
> that comes tripped and supposedly won't reset until it's correctly wired.
> Testing it out it works fine wired this way as far as the test and reset
> buttons on it go. Is there any practical reason, including the NEC, not
> to do it this way? I appreciate good responses but please don't answer if
> you don't know anything about wiring or are wondering what NEC, load or
> line means.
>
> Thanks.
>



Posted by Eric9822 on March 30, 2007, 1:14 am


> No, nothing wrong with that. Just make sure the terminals are tight on the
> wires. My preference is to splice the wires together with pigtails to the
> outlet
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm putting a GFCI in a bathroom. Ideally I would use the load terminals
> > and protect the other outlets downstream too. Unfortunately down line from
> > the GFCI is a refrigerator. I don't want the fridge on a GFCI circuit
> > because they occaisionally phantom trip and I don't want a bunch of
> > spoiled food. The GFCI has 4 terminals for Line, 2 neutral and 2 hot and 4
> > terminals for load 2 neutral and 2 hot. Is there any reason including the
> > NEC that the load wires cannot just be wired to the extra line terminals
> > to bypass the GFCI and allow power to the fridge even if the GFCI trips?
> > Yes I understand none of the outlets after the GFCI will be protected as
> > they would be if they were wired to "load", and I will take care of that
> > when I add GFCI to the kitchenette where the fridge is in whatever way
> > will work best depending on exactly where, electrically speaking, in the
> > daisy chain the fridge outlet is. The GFCI is one of the idiot proof ones
> > that comes tripped and supposedly won't reset until it's correctly wired.
> > Testing it out it works fine wired this way as far as the test and reset
> > buttons on it go. Is there any practical reason, including the NEC, not
> > to do it this way? I appreciate good responses but please don't answer if
> > you don't know anything about wiring or are wondering what NEC, load or
> > line means.
>
> > Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

As RBM states what you are suggesting will work. However, per current
code a bathroom circuit shouldn't be supplying anything outside a
bathroom.


Posted by RBM on March 30, 2007, 7:09 am


The current code wouldn't apply to a preexisting condition. Essentially he's
just changing the receptacle for a GFCI type which is fine



>> No, nothing wrong with that. Just make sure the terminals are tight on
>> the
>> wires. My preference is to splice the wires together with pigtails to the
>> outlet
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm putting a GFCI in a bathroom. Ideally I would use the load
>> > terminals
>> > and protect the other outlets downstream too. Unfortunately down line
>> > from
>> > the GFCI is a refrigerator. I don't want the fridge on a GFCI circuit
>> > because they occaisionally phantom trip and I don't want a bunch of
>> > spoiled food. The GFCI has 4 terminals for Line, 2 neutral and 2 hot
>> > and 4
>> > terminals for load 2 neutral and 2 hot. Is there any reason including
>> > the
>> > NEC that the load wires cannot just be wired to the extra line
>> > terminals
>> > to bypass the GFCI and allow power to the fridge even if the GFCI
>> > trips?
>> > Yes I understand none of the outlets after the GFCI will be protected
>> > as
>> > they would be if they were wired to "load", and I will take care of
>> > that
>> > when I add GFCI to the kitchenette where the fridge is in whatever way
>> > will work best depending on exactly where, electrically speaking, in
>> > the
>> > daisy chain the fridge outlet is. The GFCI is one of the idiot proof
>> > ones
>> > that comes tripped and supposedly won't reset until it's correctly
>> > wired.
>> > Testing it out it works fine wired this way as far as the test and
>> > reset
>> > buttons on it go. Is there any practical reason, including the NEC,
>> > not
>> > to do it this way? I appreciate good responses but please don't answer
>> > if
>> > you don't know anything about wiring or are wondering what NEC, load or
>> > line means.
>>
>> > Thanks.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> As RBM states what you are suggesting will work. However, per current
> code a bathroom circuit shouldn't be supplying anything outside a
> bathroom.
>



Posted by Eric9822 on March 30, 2007, 12:16 pm

> After the last one had me going, I can't wait to see how this one
> transpires..
> Searcher
>
The last one In retrospect dumping the salt OUT OF the bags into wheel
barrow ( clean) spreading around the pool with shovel might of been a better
idea, to bad I didn't think of that.



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