GFCI's required in a non-updated bathroom? (Two prong type)

Posted by on November 4, 2009, 9:49 am

wrote:

>salty@dog.com wrote:

>> Most "computer repairmen" are not really electronic techs. They are
>> amateur parts changers who turned a hobby into a job. That is evident
>> in your friend's diagnosis. There is no scientific basis for the claim
>> that personal computers need a ground to operate properly. That has
>> been true since the inception of personal computers. A good ground is
>> a good idea, but not to make the computer free from "static issues" or
>> to enhance reliability.
>>
>>

>A ground might be necessary for some surge protectors to work. The
>computer that's plugged into it, not so much.
>Bob

What type of surge suppressor might that be?

Posted by AZ Nomad on November 4, 2009, 10:01 am

>salty@dog.com wrote:

>A ground might be necessary for some surge protectors to work. The
>computer that's plugged into it, not so much.

Nope. If the surge protector's ground input is isolated, they'll still
work perfectly.

Posted by on November 4, 2009, 11:43 pm

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 05:08:32 -0800 (PST), "hallerb@aol.com"

>> Computers need a ground? That would certainly be news to the two that
>> have been running in my cars for close to a decade.

>car computers are grounded to the vehicle.
>at least a few years ago many PCs needed to be grounded. no ground can
>cause static issues

I am not talking about the onboard processors. I have 2 P1 desk tops
running in cars on inverters as MP3 players ... and no, ... that
center pin on the receptacle does not go anywhere.

Posted by AZ Nomad on November 4, 2009, 9:11 am

>> >I believe the GFCI itself needs a ground, it's the stuff downstream that
>> >doesn't.

>> Exactly wrong.

>Well you can have trooubles depending on what you plug in. some
>devices REQUIRE a ground for proper operation.

>computers, fluroscent lamps, come quickly to mind..........

all will work perfectly without a ground. keep trying.

The ground is there for equipment operation. It's there to safeguard the human
during a electrical fault (110 breaks loose, touches the case; transformer
isolation breaks down, etc.)

Posted by AZ Nomad on November 4, 2009, 9:28 am

wrote:
wrote:

>>> >I believe the GFCI itself needs a ground, it's the stuff downstream that
>>> >doesn't.
>>> Exactly wrong.

>>Well you can have trooubles depending on what you plug in. some
>>devices REQUIRE a ground for proper operation.

>>computers, fluroscent lamps, come quickly to mind..........

>all will work perfectly without a ground. keep trying.

>The ground is there for equipment operation. It's there to safeguard the human
>during a electrical fault (110 breaks loose, touches the case; transformer
>isolation breaks down, etc.)

god damn keyboard dyslexia. That should read:
"The ground is NOT there for equipment operation."

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