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GFCI wiring procedure dclutch 01-09-2007
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Posted by Doug Miller on January 9, 2007, 5:05 pm


>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream.

Whoever installed that GFCI clearly does not understand how they work, and,
equally clearly, did not read the directions.

>I'm trying
>to install a Leviton GFCI with Smartlock and when I try to wire it the
>same way it will not reset. I do not want to protect the outlets
>downstream of the GFIC. Is there a way around this?

There certainly is -- follow the directions that came with your new GFCI.
I *promise* they do *not* tell you to wire it the way you're trying to.

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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by Bewildered on January 9, 2007, 11:52 pm



>>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream.
>
> Whoever installed that GFCI clearly does not understand how they work,
> and,
> equally clearly, did not read the directions.

Why wouldn't it work with pigtails? The GFCI comes off the pigtail, and the
downstream outlets come off the pigtail. Everything is in order.

>
>>I'm trying
>>to install a Leviton GFCI with Smartlock and when I try to wire it the
>>same way it will not reset. I do not want to protect the outlets
>>downstream of the GFIC. Is there a way around this?
>
> There certainly is -- follow the directions that came with your new GFCI.
> I *promise* they do *not* tell you to wire it the way you're trying to.
>
The only way to wire it so it does what he wants is to take the downstream
outlets off the line side, if there are enough backstab connections to do
that. but then it is exactly the same as pigtails.



Posted by Doug Miller on January 10, 2007, 7:49 am


>
>>>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>>>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream.
>>
>> Whoever installed that GFCI clearly does not understand how they work,
>> and, equally clearly, did not read the directions.
>
>Why wouldn't it work with pigtails? The GFCI comes off the pigtail, and the
>downstream outlets come off the pigtail. Everything is in order.

No, it's not in order. Read what he wrote again: "the line and load wires are
spliced together." Wrong, wrong, wrong. Either his description is wrong, or
the wiring is wrong -- but something is definitely very wrong.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by Mark Lloyd on January 10, 2007, 11:17 am


On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:49:11 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>>
>>>>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>>>>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream.
>>>
>>> Whoever installed that GFCI clearly does not understand how they work,
>>> and, equally clearly, did not read the directions.
>>
>>Why wouldn't it work with pigtails? The GFCI comes off the pigtail, and the
>>downstream outlets come off the pigtail. Everything is in order.
>
>No, it's not in order. Read what he wrote again: "the line and load wires are
>spliced together." Wrong, wrong, wrong. Either his description is wrong, or
>the wiring is wrong -- but something is definitely very wrong.

There's something ambiguous here. Does "the line and load wires are
spliced together." refer to the wires coming from the LINE and LOAD
terminals of the GFCI (wrong) or does it refer to the wires coming
into and out of the box?
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived." -- Isaac Asimov

Posted by Doug Miller on January 10, 2007, 11:42 am



>There's something ambiguous here. Does "the line and load wires are
>spliced together." refer to the wires coming from the LINE and LOAD
>terminals of the GFCI (wrong) or does it refer to the wires coming
>into and out of the box?

Phooey. There's no ambiguity about it. In plain English, "A and B are spliced
together" means they are spliced to _each_other_.

That may, or may not, be what the OP _intended_ to write, but it certainly is
what he _did_ write.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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