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GFCI wiring procedure dclutch 01-09-2007
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Posted by Bewildered on January 10, 2007, 11:28 am



>>
>>>>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>>>>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream.
>>>
>>> Whoever installed that GFCI clearly does not understand how they work,
>>> and, equally clearly, did not read the directions.
>>
>>Why wouldn't it work with pigtails? The GFCI comes off the pigtail, and
>>the
>>downstream outlets come off the pigtail. Everything is in order.
>
> No, it's not in order. Read what he wrote again: "the line and load wires
> are
> spliced together." Wrong, wrong, wrong. Either his description is wrong,
> or
> the wiring is wrong -- but something is definitely very wrong.
>
I made the assumption that the black line wire was pigtailed to a black
going to the GFCI and a black wire going to the downstream outlets. Same
for the white wires.
I don't see another interpretation that would have let the old GFCI work.



Posted by Doug Miller on January 10, 2007, 11:49 am


>
>>
>> No, it's not in order. Read what he wrote again: "the line and load wires are
>> spliced together." Wrong, wrong, wrong. Either his description is wrong, or
>> the wiring is wrong -- but something is definitely very wrong.
>>
>I made the assumption that the black line wire was pigtailed to a black
>going to the GFCI and a black wire going to the downstream outlets. Same
>for the white wires.

One would _hope_ that's the case... but that's clearly *not* what the OP
wrote.

>I don't see another interpretation that would have let the old GFCI work.

Neither do I -- but I also don't see any indication anywhere that it _did_
work. My guess is that it doesn't, and that's why he's replacing it -- because
he doesn't know it's wired wrong, and thinks it's defective.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by Tom The Great on January 9, 2007, 5:58 pm


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:17:06 -0600, "dclutch"

>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream. I'm trying
>to install a Leviton GFCI with Smartlock and when I try to wire it the
>same way it will not reset. I do not want to protect the outlets
>downstream of the GFIC. Is there a way around this? David Jasinski

IMHO:

1. Only qualifed electricians should work with electricity.

2. Follow the manufactures directions.

3. Verifty you have the pigtailed leads hooked up to the proper
terminals. If you are only looking to protect this receptacle, then
the terminals should be "Line".

4. Ensure you wired correctly. "hot" to brass/gold screw, and
"neutral" to silver screw. Equipment "Grounding" wire to green screw.

5. Make sure the wire connections are tight. I.E. check under wire
nuts, wires secure in terminals, etc.

hth,

tom @ www.MedJobSite.com


Posted by Jeff Wisnia on January 9, 2007, 6:18 pm


dclutch wrote:
> On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
> pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream. I'm trying
> to install a Leviton GFCI with Smartlock and when I try to wire it the
> same way it will not reset. I do not want to protect the outlets
> downstream of the GFIC. Is there a way around this? David Jasinski


The only thing I can think of is that you may have somehow misidentified
the load and line terminals on that GFCI and are feeding the power into
the load terminals instead of the line terminals.

As others have already said, if PROPERLY wired as you intended, the GFCI
won't give a rat's ass about what else may be connected to its line side.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.


Posted by on January 9, 2007, 8:25 pm


On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:17:06 -0600, "dclutch"

>On my old GFCI the Line wires and Load wires are spliced together and
>pigtailed into the GFCI to not protect the outlets downstream. I'm trying
>to install a Leviton GFCI with Smartlock and when I try to wire it the
>same way it will not reset. I do not want to protect the outlets
>downstream of the GFIC. Is there a way around this? David Jasinski


You shouldn't need to pigtail the GFCI. All of the new ones I have
seen have 2 wire holes per termination so you can connect the in and
out to one terminal. As the other posters have said, ber sure you have
ot polarized right (white and black) and you are connected to the line
side.

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