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GFI circuit yaofeng 07-09-2006
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Posted by yaofeng on July 11, 2006, 8:33 am

gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >I have placed the fridge either on a different circuit or upstream of
> >the GFCI I am not sure which.
>
> You can get away with plugging a fridge in a non-GFCI receptacle under
> most situations.
> If the ground is good you shouldn't really have a problem but you
> still have a ground fault that shows up on your electric bill. If you
> cut open the compressor you would find burnt freon and signs of arcing
> but since this is a sealed system you don't know anything until the
> compressor gets so bad it shorts out and trips the breaker or blows a
> winding open and won't start.
> They usually run a long time this way but they cost more to operate
> and are warning you they could crap out any day..

Please don't lead me astray. I am not interested in doing anything to
the fridge. It is 4 years old and working fine. I have no reason to
believe the fridge will stop working any time soon. I just want to get
rid of the GFCI tripping problem.


Posted by RBM on July 11, 2006, 7:19 am
It's not uncommon for a refrigerator to trip a GFCI circuit, which is
probably one of the reasons the NEC doesn't require outlets for them to be
GFCI protected


>
> gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks to all who replied. I asked an electrical guy in my company.
>> >He said it is very likely the GFCI outlet has become bad because it has
>> >been placed upstream of the refrigerator. Over time the refreigerator
>> >cycling on and off is making the GFCI outlet go bad.
>> >
>> >This circuit is on a standard breaker with a GFCI receptacle.
>>
>> That's bullshit. The fridge may trip a GFCI when they get old but they
>> don't damage the GFCI. The compressor develops small internal shorts
>> that get detected by the GFCI
>
> I am no electrician. But if the fridge trips the GFCI. The fridge is
> taken out so food spoils. This is not anyone wants.
>
> I have placed the fridge either on a different circuit or upstream of
> the GFCI I am not sure which. The tenanats complain to me the oven
> doesn't work. It is because the GFCI keeps tripping to take the the
> oven electricity source out so it won't ignite.
>



Posted by on July 11, 2006, 1:07 pm
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:19:54 -0400, "RBM" <rbm2(remove
this)@optonline.net> wrote:

>It's not uncommon for a refrigerator to trip a GFCI circuit, which is
>probably one of the reasons the NEC doesn't require outlets for them to be
>GFCI protected

It all dependss on where it is located. In some locartions there is no
relief from 210.8. The 2005 code is tightening this up.

Posted by Bud-- on July 11, 2006, 5:25 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 07:19:54 -0400, "RBM" <rbm2(remove
> this)@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>>It's not uncommon for a refrigerator to trip a GFCI circuit, which is
>>probably one of the reasons the NEC doesn't require outlets for them to be
>>GFCI protected
>
>
> It all dependss on where it is located. In some locartions there is no
> relief from 210.8. The 2005 code is tightening this up.

Commercial kitchens are required to have plug-in refrigerators/freezers
on GFCI circuits. I read somewhere the rationalle is that people have
been shocked (electrocuted?) by refrigerators/freezers, and they
shouldn't trip a GFCI.

bud--

Posted by yaofeng on July 14, 2006, 9:02 am

RBM (remove this) wrote:
> It's not uncommon for a refrigerator to trip a GFCI circuit, which is
> probably one of the reasons the NEC doesn't require outlets for them to be
> GFCI protected
>
>
Do you if there is a way to test the GFCI receptacle by itself?


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