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GLUEING CHAIR RUNGS @J 10-27-2007
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Posted by Wayne Whitney on October 27, 2007, 8:04 pm

> 3 - Insert a shim in the groove to expand the dowel end enough to
> get a snug fit.

Or if you'll like to get fancy, try this variation:

Make the shim wedge-shaped, so that if you were to fully drive it into
the groove, the dowel end would be a little bigger than a snug fit.
Then put the wedge in the mortise (hole) and start inserting the tenon
(dowel), with the groove in the tenon lined up with the wedge. As you
get close to bottoming out the tenon in the mortise, the wedge will
expand the tenon to fit tightly against the mortise.

You'll have to use a mallet or clamp to get the tenon to fully seat.
Just be sure not to make the wedge so big that you split the piece of
wood with the mortise. Also, you should arrange the wedge so that it
is perpendicular to the grain of the mortised piece, to reduce
splitting.

I believe this technique is called "fox wedging".

Cheers, Wayne

Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 28, 2007, 11:31 am
>
> > 3 - Insert a shim in the groove to expand the dowel end enough to
> > get a snug fit.
>
> Or if you'll like to get fancy, try this variation:
>
> Make the shim wedge-shaped, so that if you were to fully drive it into
> the groove, the dowel end would be a little bigger than a snug fit.
> Then put the wedge in the mortise (hole) and start inserting the tenon
> (dowel), with the groove in the tenon lined up with the wedge. As you
> get close to bottoming out the tenon in the mortise, the wedge will
> expand the tenon to fit tightly against the mortise.
>
> You'll have to use a mallet or clamp to get the tenon to fully seat.
> Just be sure not to make the wedge so big that you split the piece of
> wood with the mortise. Also, you should arrange the wedge so that it
> is perpendicular to the grain of the mortised piece, to reduce
> splitting.
>
> I believe this technique is called "fox wedging".
>
> Cheers, Wayne

re: Make the shim wedge-shaped

I guess I should have been more specific... when I think shim, I think
wedge shaped. I'm not sure how you could expand a a dowel end without
damaging it with flat piece of stock.



Posted by Chris Lewis on October 27, 2007, 6:03 pm

> It's pretty dry down here in Arizona.
> Ever since we've moved here,
> rungs have been popping out of the sockets
> in my kitchen chairs.

> I use ELMERS woodworking glue,
> and clamp the pieces when done....

> Still... another one pops out every month.

> Is there a better glue I should be using ?
> <rj>

If the joints you're gluing are what's coming apart, it's
probably because you didn't clean the rungs or holes well
enough. Glue-to-glue adhesion may not work very well - you
want bare wood.

Lee Valley sells a glue called "chair doctor". While I've not
used it, it should work fairly well because it's designed
specifically for this. It's a somewhat thinned wood glue
with a syringe cap. You don't have to take the joint
apart... Stick the needle in the gap, and squirt.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Nancy Young on October 27, 2007, 6:13 pm

>
> It's pretty dry down here in Arizona.
> Ever since we've moved here,
> rungs have been popping out of the sockets
> in my kitchen chairs.
>
> I use ELMERS woodworking glue,
> and clamp the pieces when done....
>
> Still... another one pops out every month.
>
> Is there a better glue I should be using ?

I've considered trying something like these:

http://www.shophometrends.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_305086

Mr. Grip Furniture repair kit ... I think I've seen other brands.
Anyone tried them?

nancy



Posted by Toller on October 27, 2007, 6:23 pm

>
>>
>> It's pretty dry down here in Arizona.
>> Ever since we've moved here,
>> rungs have been popping out of the sockets
>> in my kitchen chairs.
>>
>> I use ELMERS woodworking glue,
>> and clamp the pieces when done....
>>
>> Still... another one pops out every month.
>>
>> Is there a better glue I should be using ?
>
> I've considered trying something like these:
>
> http://www.shophometrends.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_305086
>
> Mr. Grip Furniture repair kit ... I think I've seen other brands.
> Anyone tried them?
>
I've used them for holding screws in stripped out holes; worked pretty well.
Oddly I haven't needed them in 10 years; I must have gotten more careful!



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