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Gap between cinder block wall and basement floor baspluim@gmail.com 03-28-2007
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Posted by baspluim@gmail.com on March 28, 2007, 10:22 pm


I'm fixing up my workshop in the basement. The floor is a concrete
slab, and I plan to cover it with vinyl/ rubber tiles. Moisture is not
a problem.

There is a gap between the slab and the cinder block walls. This gap
is only about 1/8" wide at two of the walls, but along the long wall
the gap widens in a few places to about 1". Along the edge of the slab
there is insulation, some kind of Styrofoam. The top of this
insulation has deteriorated somewhat over the years (the house is 20+
years old), but looks reasonable. In most spots, the gap is only about
1/4" deep (some loose insulation chips, small "rubble" is visible),
but for about 3-4 feet the gap is much deeper, about 1 - 1 1/2".
Again, there is some "rubble" visible in the gap. Using a flashlight,
I can see a space between the insulation and the foundation wall, but
I can't see how far down this space goes, for obvious reasons.

I was thinking of sealing the gap (the top section that is) before
laying the tiles (now or never...).
Cement is the obvious choice, but I've heard of this thing called
"temperature" and "expansion". That's what I get for watching all
those DIY shows. Ignorance is bliss......

So, I thought about cutting a strip of thin board (1/8"), place this
in the gap against the wall, and then fill the gap with cement,
effectively using the board as a form. That should leave enough room
for expansion.
What material would work best? Vinyl concrete patcher? Some sort of
epoxy? Ordinary cement?

Thanks.


Posted by Roger Shoaf on March 28, 2007, 10:56 pm



> I'm fixing up my workshop in the basement. The floor is a concrete
> slab, and I plan to cover it with vinyl/ rubber tiles. Moisture is not
> a problem.
>
> There is a gap between the slab and the cinder block walls. This gap
> is only about 1/8" wide at two of the walls, but along the long wall
> the gap widens in a few places to about 1". Along the edge of the slab
> there is insulation, some kind of Styrofoam. The top of this
> insulation has deteriorated somewhat over the years (the house is 20+
> years old), but looks reasonable. In most spots, the gap is only about
> 1/4" deep (some loose insulation chips, small "rubble" is visible),
> but for about 3-4 feet the gap is much deeper, about 1 - 1 1/2".
> Again, there is some "rubble" visible in the gap. Using a flashlight,
> I can see a space between the insulation and the foundation wall, but
> I can't see how far down this space goes, for obvious reasons.
>
> I was thinking of sealing the gap (the top section that is) before
> laying the tiles (now or never...).
> Cement is the obvious choice, but I've heard of this thing called
> "temperature" and "expansion". That's what I get for watching all
> those DIY shows. Ignorance is bliss......
>
> So, I thought about cutting a strip of thin board (1/8"), place this
> in the gap against the wall, and then fill the gap with cement,
> effectively using the board as a form. That should leave enough room
> for expansion.
> What material would work best? Vinyl concrete patcher? Some sort of
> epoxy? Ordinary cement?
>
> Thanks.
>

Perhaps you should leave the gap as it is and just place baseboard along the
walls. That way if the slab needs to move it can.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.



Posted by DB on March 28, 2007, 11:29 pm

> After the last one had me going, I can't wait to see how this one
> transpires..
> Searcher
>
The last one In retrospect dumping the salt OUT OF the bags into wheel
barrow ( clean) spreading around the pool with shovel might of been a better
idea, to bad I didn't think of that.



Posted by on March 29, 2007, 1:00 am

> After the last one had me going, I can't wait to see how this one
> transpires..
> Searcher
>
The last one In retrospect dumping the salt OUT OF the bags into wheel
barrow ( clean) spreading around the pool with shovel might of been a better
idea, to bad I didn't think of that.



Posted by Frank on March 29, 2007, 8:38 am


> I'm fixing up my workshop in the basement. The floor is a concrete
> slab, and I plan to cover it with vinyl/ rubber tiles. Moisture is not
> a problem.
>
> There is a gap between the slab and the cinder block walls. This gap
> is only about 1/8" wide at two of the walls, but along the long wall
> the gap widens in a few places to about 1". Along the edge of the slab
> there is insulation, some kind of Styrofoam. The top of this
> insulation has deteriorated somewhat over the years (the house is 20+
> years old), but looks reasonable. In most spots, the gap is only about
> 1/4" deep (some loose insulation chips, small "rubble" is visible),
> but for about 3-4 feet the gap is much deeper, about 1 - 1 1/2".
> Again, there is some "rubble" visible in the gap. Using a flashlight,
> I can see a space between the insulation and the foundation wall, but
> I can't see how far down this space goes, for obvious reasons.
>
> I was thinking of sealing the gap (the top section that is) before
> laying the tiles (now or never...).
> Cement is the obvious choice, but I've heard of this thing called
> "temperature" and "expansion". That's what I get for watching all
> those DIY shows. Ignorance is bliss......
>
> So, I thought about cutting a strip of thin board (1/8"), place this
> in the gap against the wall, and then fill the gap with cement,
> effectively using the board as a form. That should leave enough room
> for expansion.
> What material would work best? Vinyl concrete patcher? Some sort of
> epoxy? Ordinary cement?
>
> Thanks.

My basement is above ground on the back and side walls and is half
finished (a third side). Has unused French drain. I framed and
insulated the exposed sides and covered with painted peg board making
it great for hanging tools and things. Floor painted but if tiled
would not show gap. I think you should leave yours alone and not fill
it.

Also there is no such thing as a dry basement. I've had 2 minor water
excursion incidents in the 30+ years I've lived here, both due to not
maintaining draining from downspouts. Simple extensions solved
problems but any time rain water hits side of house, there is
potential for water in basement.

Frank


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