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Gaps in floorboards & carpet & felt underlay monrae fordi 12-22-2006
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Posted by on December 22, 2006, 4:42 pm



monrae fordi wrote:
> We have a small bedroom in a 1936 terraced house in north London. we have
> decided to go for a new fitted carpet with a natural material underlay. (=
not
> rubber underlay, which we suspect might deteriorate after ten or fifteen
> years or so).
>
> The wooden flooring has gaps pretty much all over up to roughly 5 cm where
> the boards have shrunk over the years. with a few places with some short=
ish
> strips up
> to 1 cm wide, where the wood has been damaged at some point, probably we
> guess before
> laying them down.
>
> We thought we would go for the most basic carpet from john Lewis with a
> Hessian backing. It's about =A320 sq metre. (we know the rubber back unde=
rlay
> deteriorate because the carpet we pulled up and threw out was like a mass=
of
> decayed bread crumbs underneath). John Lewis's felt underlay is =A34.45 =
sq
> metre, their basic carpet is =A320 a square metre and the fitting charge =
is
> =A34.65 a square metre, since I don't think I could fit it myself.
>
> Does all this sound a reasonable choice? And what please is it best to do
> about the gaps between the floor boards especially the larger ones? Sinc=
e I
> would like to sort out the gaps in my own time before the carpet actually
> arrives. Thanks for any advice.


if the gaps are 5mm they probably wont matter after the carpet is
installed. A 5cm gap would be about 2" wide and would need to be fixed.


1 cm gap might be a problem .

A fix I have seen done is to use a router and guide strip to route a
groove in the existing flooring and insert a new piece. You cut about
1/3 the flooring depth.

A more common method is to use an underlayment plywood nailed to the
flooring.

The prices you have quoted seem very high , but I have only ever
purchased really cheap carpet :). Get a couple of quotes and you
will soon tell if you are getting fair prices.


Posted by EXT on December 22, 2006, 5:37 pm


I don't know why the British (I was born in England) are often preoccupied
with working with the original floorboards. These were installed while the
house was being built. In North America they are often weathered and not
intended as a finished floor. They are called a "sub-floor" and the finished
floor is installed over it. If you have gaps such as you describe, why not
install a nice hardwood floor to cover the poor floor you have. If you want
fitted carpeting installed out to the walls, do as the other poster
suggested (as is done in North America), install a low cost underlay such as
thin plywood, hardboard or other sheet material to cover the gaps so they
don't start showing as lines through your carpet.

> We have a small bedroom in a 1936 terraced house in north London. we have
> decided to go for a new fitted carpet with a natural material underlay.
> (not
> rubber underlay, which we suspect might deteriorate after ten or fifteen
> years or so).
>
> The wooden flooring has gaps pretty much all over up to roughly 5 cm where
> the boards have shrunk over the years. with a few places with some
> shortish strips up
> to 1 cm wide, where the wood has been damaged at some point, probably we
> guess before
> laying them down.
>
> We thought we would go for the most basic carpet from john Lewis with a
> Hessian backing. It's about £20 sq metre. (we know the rubber back
> underlay deteriorate because the carpet we pulled up and threw out was
> like a mass of decayed bread crumbs underneath). John Lewis's felt
> underlay is £4.45 sq metre, their basic carpet is £20 a square metre and
> the fitting charge is £4.65 a square metre, since I don't think I could
> fit it myself.
>
> Does all this sound a reasonable choice? And what please is it best to do
> about the gaps between the floor boards especially the larger ones? Since
> I would like to sort out the gaps in my own time before the carpet
> actually arrives. Thanks for any advice.
>
>



Posted by Caustic on December 23, 2006, 1:05 am


"monrae fordi" wrote:
> We have a small bedroom in a 1936 terraced house in north London. we have
> decided to go for a new fitted carpet with a natural material underlay.
> (not
> rubber underlay, which we suspect might deteriorate after ten or fifteen
> years or so).
>
> The wooden flooring has gaps pretty much all over up to roughly 5 cm where
> the boards have shrunk over the years. with a few places with some
> shortish strips up
> to 1 cm wide, where the wood has been damaged at some point, probably we
> guess before
> laying them down.
>
> We thought we would go for the most basic carpet from john Lewis with a
> Hessian backing. It's about £20 sq metre. (we know the rubber back
> underlay deteriorate because the carpet we pulled up and threw out was
> like a mass of decayed bread crumbs underneath). John Lewis's felt
> underlay is £4.45 sq metre, their basic carpet is £20 a square metre and
> the fitting charge is £4.65 a square metre, since I don't think I could
> fit it myself.
>
> Does all this sound a reasonable choice? And what please is it best to do
> about the gaps between the floor boards especially the larger ones? Since
> I would like to sort out the gaps in my own time before the carpet
> actually arrives. Thanks for any advice.

That carpet and felt underlay should be fine in a bedroom. My 1900 semi has
similar floor boards (some gaps and uneven in places). I laid sheets of
hardboard, nailed down, and sealed the gaps between the skirting boards and
floor with sealant, to make the floor level for carpets and to reduce
draughts.



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