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Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on July 7, 2007, 5:08 pm
> DerbyDad03 writes:
>
>> Little did I know that the torsion spring was broken and all that was
>> holding the door up was opener. I also didn't know that my 2 year
>> daughter was at that exact moment running into the garage. As soon as
>> I pulled the cord, the door dropped with it's full weight and
>> miracously stopped just inches before it hit my daughter.
>
> There was a tragic case just like this a few years back. The door fell
> and
> pinned the child. The door was too heavy for the dad to lift off the
> child. The child suffocated while dad watched.
>
> The spring manufacturer was held liable.
Interesting question: What kind of twit has kids wandering around while he's
working on a garage door?
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Posted by on July 8, 2007, 7:12 am
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:50:11 -0500, Richard J Kinch
>DerbyDad03 writes:
>
>> Little did I know that the torsion spring was broken and all that was
>> holding the door up was opener. I also didn't know that my 2 year
>> daughter was at that exact moment running into the garage. As soon as
>> I pulled the cord, the door dropped with it's full weight and
>> miracously stopped just inches before it hit my daughter.
>
>There was a tragic case just like this a few years back. The door fell and
>pinned the child. The door was too heavy for the dad to lift off the
>child. The child suffocated while dad watched.
>
>The spring manufacturer was held liable.
Although I am the OP on this message, this has nothing to do with the
door breaking, but has to do with getting trapped under the door.
This happened a month ago or so (same door, but before the cable
broke). We have a small farm. To make a few extra dollars we breed
show rabbits, which are these fancy kinds, such as the Rex. We had
just bought this really pretty doe. I was still building the rabbit
pen, so I was keeping the rabbits in the garage. The rabbit pen which
I was building is a distance from the garage. About a week before I
had taken a piece of 2x4 to the garage to rip it on my table saw. As
usual, I got side tracked and forgot to rip the board. Everytime I
went to the rabbit pen I would remember that board, but did not want
to make a special trip to the garage for it. Everytime I was near the
garage I would remind myself to rip the board and take it to the pen,
but every time I would forget. I bet that happened at least a dozen
times. Yes, I am forgetful, and admit it....
Anyhow one night I went to the garage (in the dark) and opened the
door to grab a bale of hay I had taken there for the rabbits feed and
bedding. I decided that the particular bale was not the hay the
rabbits prefer, so I took it outside and fed it to the ponies. I shut
the garage door and headed to the barn to get another bale. Halfway
to the barn I remembered the 2x4 and decided that enough was enough.
Either I rip that board and take it to the pen, or I will never
remember to do it. (Actually, I think there was a voice telling me to
go back to the garage). I went back and in the dark I noticed
something out of the ordinary in front of the garage door. However, I
could not make out what it was until I bent over to get a closer look.
Then came the panic. This new doe we had just bought, had once again
escaped from her cage, and she was slammed against the concrete under
the garage door. When I touched her she appeared dead, and was not
breathing. In order to unlatch the door, I had to push down on the
door, but time was wasting and since she appeared dead anyhow, I
pushed down and unlatched it quickly. As the door went up, she
suddenly jumped and ran right over to her cage and stood there. I was
amazed, and held her for quite awhile. She was breathing real hard
and hear heart was pounding. I put her back in her cage and she went
about her business as if nothing happened. She is fine today and did
not appear to suffer any injuries. How a 8X9 foot wooden door could
come down hard on top of this 3 pound rabbit and she still survived is
beyond me.
If it were not for that 2x4, she would have died in another minute or
so, because I know she was not breathing. I do think the rubber
weatherstrip on the door saved her, plus my decision to go back to the
garage. She is now in an escape proof cage, and the scrap piece from
that 2x4 is next to her cage, because if it was not for that piece of
wood, she would be a goner.
Just one of those weird things that happen.......
At least it has a happy ending.
She was not the most friendly rabbit when I got her, but after that
incident, she is now one of the friendliest rabbits we have,
particularly to myself.
I guess she knows I saved her butt....
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Posted by J.A. Michel on July 8, 2007, 12:42 am
>> I had this happen twice at my old house. The eyes of the springs develop
>> fatigue cracks over time, and when the crack propagates deep
>> enough....BAM!!
>> The best solution is to get new garage doors with torsion springs on
>> them.
>>
>> If you don't want to do that, then replace all the springs so they are
>> the
>> same age and have the same number of cycles on them. Replace every 5
>> years
>> or so before the have a chance to break.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> - The best solution is to get new garage doors with torsion springs on
> them.
>
> While a torsion spring may not let go with the force of an extension
> spring, they do present a different kind of danger.
Huh? How does a torsion spring present a 'different danger' than a
extension spring?
The incident you describe could have just as easily happened with an
extension spring door
with an opener on it. You should not have pulled the emergency release with
children present!
Glad your daughter is OK!
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on July 8, 2007, 12:18 pm
> >> I had this happen twice at my old house. The eyes of the springs develop
> >> fatigue cracks over time, and when the crack propagates deep
> >> enough....BAM!!
> >> The best solution is to get new garage doors with torsion springs on
> >> them.
>
> >> If you don't want to do that, then replace all the springs so they are
> >> the
> >> same age and have the same number of cycles on them. Replace every 5
> >> years
> >> or so before the have a chance to break.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > - The best solution is to get new garage doors with torsion springs on
> > them.
>
> > While a torsion spring may not let go with the force of an extension
> > spring, they do present a different kind of danger.
>
> Huh? How does a torsion spring present a 'different danger' than a
> extension spring?
> The incident you describe could have just as easily happened with an
> extension spring door
> with an opener on it. You should not have pulled the emergency release with
> children present!
> Glad your daughter is OK!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
- Huh? How does a torsion spring present a 'different danger' than a
extension spring?
One of the responses was to replace the door with one that uses
torsion springs, implying
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on July 8, 2007, 12:32 pm
>
>
>
>
>
> > >> I had this happen twice at my old house. The eyes of the springs develop
> > >> fatigue cracks over time, and when the crack propagates deep
> > >> enough....BAM!!
> > >> The best solution is to get new garage doors with torsion springs on
> > >> them.
>
> > >> If you don't want to do that, then replace all the springs so they are
> > >> the
> > >> same age and have the same number of cycles on them. Replace every 5
> > >> years
> > >> or so before the have a chance to break.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > - The best solution is to get new garage doors with torsion springs on
> > > them.
>
> > > While a torsion spring may not let go with the force of an extension
> > > spring, they do present a different kind of danger.
>
> > Huh? How does a torsion spring present a 'different danger' than a
> > extension spring?
> > The incident you describe could have just as easily happened with an
> > extension spring door
> > with an opener on it. You should not have pulled the emergency release with
> > children present!
> > Glad your daughter is OK!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> - Huh? How does a torsion spring present a 'different danger' than a
> extension spring?
>
> One of the responses was to replace the door with one that uses
> torsion springs, implying- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry about my last post...sloppy mouse click.
Anyway, as I was saying,..
One of the responses was to replace the door with one that uses
torsion springs, implying (at least to me) that a torsion spring made
garage doors safer. I was simply pointing out that a broken torsion
spring can also be a dangerous thing, but not from flying debris, but
from the unsupported door - that's a 'different danger'. Sorry for
causing a misunderstanding.
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