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Garage Door Spring Rips Garage Apart andy 07-07-2007
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Posted by on July 8, 2007, 7:16 am
wrote:

>On Jul 7, 3:46 pm, a...@invalid.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:31:41 -0400, Paul Franklin
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>> >On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:30:43 -0500, a...@invalid.com wrote:
>> ><snip?
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>> >>Is there any way to secure the spring so if something breaks, at least
>> >>it will stay up in the air where it belongs?
>> >>This is an older 8 foot high, 9 foot wide wooden door. It's not that
>> >>heavy, but still needs the springs to lift it. Where I used to live
>> >>we had a 10 foot wide fiberglass door and I could lift it without
>> >>springs, although it was a bit of a struggle. Those springs were not
>> >>as large (and likely not as powerful).
>>
>> >>I'm off to buy a new cable, but I wont feel safe going into the garage
>> >>until I can find a way to make those springs safer. Placing them
>> >>inside a steel tube (pipe) seems like one way, but how?
>>
>> >>Anyone got any tips?
>>
>> >Extension springs should always have a second, separate piece of wire
>> >rope running through the middle of the spring and secured solidly at
>> >each end with a separate screw eye (not the one holding the spring.
>> >This is called a spring keeper, and it keeps the spring from flying
>> >loose if it breaks or comes free from the cable or attachment point.
>> >Pick the attachment points so the spring can slide along the keeper as
>> >it extends and contracts.
>>
>> >HTH,
>>
>> >Paul
>>
>> OK, so what you are saying is the cable goes thru the inside of the
>> springs coil and attaches somewhere to the garage frame, right?
>> This makes sense. If there is a picture on a website that would help
>> so I know if this cable goes straight or what.....
>>
>> Buying a new door is not in the budget, and I sort of like my old
>> wooden one. These fiberglass doors are ugly. I will replace the
>> springs and cables, but that still dont account for metal failure
>> since anything can break at any time. I do like the idea of these
>> extra cables.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andy- Hide quoted text -
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>-- If there is a picture on a website that would help so I know if
>this cable goes straight or what.....
>
>See page 4:
>
>http://www.clopaydoor.com/publicfiles/StndrdExtSpringAssemblyInstruct.pdf
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>

That's just what I was looking for. Thanks !!!!
Andy

Posted by David Starr on July 7, 2007, 5:33 pm
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:31:41 -0400, Paul Franklin


>Extension springs should always have a second, separate piece of wire
>rope running through the middle of the spring and secured solidly at
>each end with a separate screw eye (not the one holding the spring.
>This is called a spring keeper, and it keeps the spring from flying
>loose if it breaks or comes free from the cable or attachment point.
>Pick the attachment points so the spring can slide along the keeper as
>it extends and contracts.

I had a spring break 2 weeks ago. The spring keeper prevented any damage.
Replacing both springs took me less than an hour.
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Posted by Jack on July 8, 2007, 8:56 am
> On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:31:41 -0400, Paul Franklin
>
> >Extension springs should always have a second, separate piece of wire
> >rope running through the middle of the spring and secured solidly at
> >each end with a separate screw eye (not the one holding the spring.
> >This is called a spring keeper, and it keeps the spring from flying
> >loose if it breaks or comes free from the cable or attachment point.
> >Pick the attachment points so the spring can slide along the keeper as
> >it extends and contracts.
>
> I had a spring break 2 weeks ago. The spring keeper prevented any damage.
> Replacing both springs took me less than an hour.
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I had one break as I closed the door from the inisde. It splintered a
2X6 . Then and there I came up with idea of running the extra cable
thru the spring. I posted this same info on this site several years
ago to warn people of the danger of that kind of door opener.
Jack


Posted by Meat Plow on July 7, 2007, 4:27 pm
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:30:43 -0500, andy wrote:

> Is there any way to secure the spring so if something breaks, at least
> it will stay up in the air where it belongs?

Saftey cable through it if it's one that hangs with a pulley on the end.


Posted by ValveJob on July 7, 2007, 5:17 pm
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:30:43 -0500, andy@invalid.com wrote:

>One of the cables broke on my garage door. It appears that when it
>broke the spring pressure did the damage. The door track is (was)
>hung from a vertical 2x4 coming down from the ceiling. (I have an 8
>foot high door in a garage with a 9 foot ceiling). The spring was
>attached to a large eye hook in that 2x4. The spring actually
>shattered that 2x4 causing the track to become disconnected and free
>hanging. The spring was found in the rear of the garage where it
>knocked a bunch of cans of oil and other automotive chemicals all over
>the floor and a chunk of wood was ripped off one shelf. This left a
>major mess with oil on the floor.
>
>Luckily I entered the garage via the walk in door. I was shocked when
>I went in there. I first noticed the oil mess and started cussing at
>my cats, thinking they had gotten in there. But there were no cats.
>When I turned around I noticed the door track hanging free and soon
>discovered the spring on the floor.
>
>I heard these springs are dangerous, but I never knew they could do
>this much damage. I know I can fix this, and this time I intend to
>use a hardwood 2x4 or maybe a 4x4 if I can find one. However, I dont
>like the idea of walking into a garage with these springs ready to
>fly, which could cause severe injury.
>
>Is there any way to secure the spring so if something breaks, at least
>it will stay up in the air where it belongs?
>This is an older 8 foot high, 9 foot wide wooden door. It's not that
>heavy, but still needs the springs to lift it. Where I used to live
>we had a 10 foot wide fiberglass door and I could lift it without
>springs, although it was a bit of a struggle. Those springs were not
>as large (and likely not as powerful).
>
>I'm off to buy a new cable, but I wont feel safe going into the garage
>until I can find a way to make those springs safer. Placing them
>inside a steel tube (pipe) seems like one way, but how?
>
>Anyone got any tips?
>
>Thanks
>
>Andy

I've had both springs on my main door break and each time it punched
thru the sheetrock.

I heated the end with a blow torch and put a new 'end' on it and have
had no trouble since I did the work. That tells me that when they
originally made the springs, they must have weakened the metal more
than I weakened the metal.






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