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Garbage disposal drainage question/problem C. Ballou 08-04-2007
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Posted by C. Ballou on August 4, 2007, 11:27 pm
        Hello to all -

        I just got a new kitchen counter & sink installed. The sink is
an undermount, 9 in deep model. The problem (maybe) is that this makes
the garbage disposal several inches lower than it was before. It no
longer lines up with the piping out of the house. I'll need to redo at
least part of it to make them meet, but my concern is this: Is the
fact that the pipe out of the disposal and the pipe out through the
wall are at the same height or the disposal pipe is even a bit lower
going to be a problem?
        Lowering the pipe out of the house would be a major task, I'm
thinking.
        Raising the disposal... I can't think of a way to do that.
        Suggestions? Do I even need to worry about this?
        Thanks for any help!

        CB

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Posted by Speedy Jim on August 5, 2007, 9:11 am
C. Ballou wrote:
>         Hello to all -
>
>         I just got a new kitchen counter & sink installed. The sink is
> an undermount, 9 in deep model. The problem (maybe) is that this makes
> the garbage disposal several inches lower than it was before. It no
> longer lines up with the piping out of the house. I'll need to redo at
> least part of it to make them meet, but my concern is this: Is the
> fact that the pipe out of the disposal and the pipe out through the
> wall are at the same height or the disposal pipe is even a bit lower
> going to be a problem?
>         Lowering the pipe out of the house would be a major task, I'm
> thinking.
>         Raising the disposal... I can't think of a way to do that.
>         Suggestions? Do I even need to worry about this?
>         Thanks for any help!
>
>         CB

Yes, it can be a problem. Although you may get
the disposal to work, it means that it will be
"flooded" internally all the time. That may create
nasty odors or may even deteriorate the housing/mech.

Not all disposals discharge at the same level
(though there is some standardization). You might
compare models at a store.
In the end, it may come down to re-piping the drain.

Jim

Posted by on August 5, 2007, 11:56 am
> C. Ballou wrote:
> > Hello to all -
>
> > I just got a new kitchen counter & sink installed. The sink is
> > an undermount, 9 in deep model. The problem (maybe) is that this makes
> > the garbage disposal several inches lower than it was before. It no
> > longer lines up with the piping out of the house. I'll need to redo at
> > least part of it to make them meet, but my concern is this: Is the
> > fact that the pipe out of the disposal and the pipe out through the
> > wall are at the same height or the disposal pipe is even a bit lower
> > going to be a problem?
> > Lowering the pipe out of the house would be a major task, I'm
> > thinking.
> > Raising the disposal... I can't think of a way to do that.
> > Suggestions? Do I even need to worry about this?
> > Thanks for any help!
>
> > CB
>
> Yes, it can be a problem. Although you may get
> the disposal to work, it means that it will be
> "flooded" internally all the time. That may create
> nasty odors or may even deteriorate the housing/mech.
>
> Not all disposals discharge at the same level
> (though there is some standardization). You might
> compare models at a store.
> In the end, it may come down to re-piping the drain.
>
> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Agree with Jim. I think the disposal outlet has to be higher than the
drain pipe in the wall. I had a bit of a time getting everything
right too, when I changed to a very deep sink last year. But I love
the deep sink!

Go to the various disposal manf. websites. You'll find manuals with
diagrams that show the various alignement limits of disposal outlet,
vs drain pipe, trap, etc.


Posted by C. Ballou on August 5, 2007, 12:14 pm
Guys... That's the wrong answer! ;-)
Thanks for the input, and it is what I thought.
Now - options. Jim mentioned re-piping the drain. Are there
differences in disposals that may take care of the problem? And
ideally, how much difference between the two heights of tubing should
I have at a minimum?
Again, thanks for the help!

CB

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:56:27 -0700, trader4@optonline.net wrote:

>> C. Ballou wrote:
>> > Hello to all -
>>
>> > I just got a new kitchen counter & sink installed. The sink is
>> > an undermount, 9 in deep model. The problem (maybe) is that this makes
>> > the garbage disposal several inches lower than it was before. It no
>> > longer lines up with the piping out of the house. I'll need to redo at
>> > least part of it to make them meet, but my concern is this: Is the
>> > fact that the pipe out of the disposal and the pipe out through the
>> > wall are at the same height or the disposal pipe is even a bit lower
>> > going to be a problem?
>> > Lowering the pipe out of the house would be a major task, I'm
>> > thinking.
>> > Raising the disposal... I can't think of a way to do that.
>> > Suggestions? Do I even need to worry about this?
>> > Thanks for any help!
>>
>> > CB
>>
>> Yes, it can be a problem. Although you may get
>> the disposal to work, it means that it will be
>> "flooded" internally all the time. That may create
>> nasty odors or may even deteriorate the housing/mech.
>>
>> Not all disposals discharge at the same level
>> (though there is some standardization). You might
>> compare models at a store.
>> In the end, it may come down to re-piping the drain.
>>
>> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Agree with Jim. I think the disposal outlet has to be higher than the
>drain pipe in the wall. I had a bit of a time getting everything
>right too, when I changed to a very deep sink last year. But I love
>the deep sink!
>
>Go to the various disposal manf. websites. You'll find manuals with
>diagrams that show the various alignement limits of disposal outlet,
>vs drain pipe, trap, etc.


Posted by on August 5, 2007, 12:35 pm
> Guys... That's the wrong answer! ;-)
> Thanks for the input, and it is what I thought.
> Now - options. Jim mentioned re-piping the drain. Are there
> differences in disposals that may take care of the problem? And
> ideally, how much difference between the two heights of tubing should
> I have at a minimum?
> Again, thanks for the help!
>
> CB
>
>
>
> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:56:27 -0700, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> >> C. Ballou wrote:
> >> > Hello to all -
>
> >> > I just got a new kitchen counter & sink installed. The sink is
> >> > an undermount, 9 in deep model. The problem (maybe) is that this makes
> >> > the garbage disposal several inches lower than it was before. It no
> >> > longer lines up with the piping out of the house. I'll need to redo at
> >> > least part of it to make them meet, but my concern is this: Is the
> >> > fact that the pipe out of the disposal and the pipe out through the
> >> > wall are at the same height or the disposal pipe is even a bit lower
> >> > going to be a problem?
> >> > Lowering the pipe out of the house would be a major task, I'm
> >> > thinking.
> >> > Raising the disposal... I can't think of a way to do that.
> >> > Suggestions? Do I even need to worry about this?
> >> > Thanks for any help!
>
> >> > CB
>
> >> Yes, it can be a problem. Although you may get
> >> the disposal to work, it means that it will be
> >> "flooded" internally all the time. That may create
> >> nasty odors or may even deteriorate the housing/mech.
>
> >> Not all disposals discharge at the same level
> >> (though there is some standardization). You might
> >> compare models at a store.
> >> In the end, it may come down to re-piping the drain.
>
> >> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Agree with Jim. I think the disposal outlet has to be higher than the
> >drain pipe in the wall. I had a bit of a time getting everything
> >right too, when I changed to a very deep sink last year. But I love
> >the deep sink!
>
> >Go to the various disposal manf. websites. You'll find manuals with
> >diagrams that show the various alignement limits of disposal outlet,
> >vs drain pipe, trap, etc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, there are some slight differences in the various disposals.
Which is why I suggested you go to the manf websites, where they have
diagrams that show the mounting pipe geometry limits. The main thing
going here is if the disposal is too low relative to the wall pipe,
then you wind up with standing water in the disposal.


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