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Garden wall MiamiCuse 02-06-2007
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Posted by MiamiCuse on February 6, 2007, 1:25 am


I understand in most cities if you build a concrete or masonry wall
like a privacy wall along the property line you will need a permit, in
Miami here you have to design the footings and wind load etc...and it
makes a masonry wall fence cost prohibitive.

I am wondering when is a wall considered a wall? I mean if I lay
concrete blocks around the property just 8" tall I don't think it
would be considered a wall, but may be a plant border. So at some
point, it becomes a "real wall"? I wonder what the threshold is. I
am thinking of doing a concrete border may be 16" tall (two 8" blocks)
I wonder if I need a structural footing for that...looking for an
effect like this:

http://www.rogerhopkins.com/portfolio/walls/schecter003.JPG

http://www.eruuf.org/Wall.jpg

of course, the blocks would have stucco applied and painted.

Thanks,

MC


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Posted by Lisa BB. on February 6, 2007, 6:25 am



> I understand in most cities if you build a concrete or masonry wall
> like a privacy wall along the property line you will need a permit, in
> Miami here you have to design the footings and wind load etc...and it
> makes a masonry wall fence cost prohibitive.
>
> I am wondering when is a wall considered a wall? I mean if I lay
> concrete blocks around the property just 8" tall I don't think it
> would be considered a wall, but may be a plant border. So at some
> point, it becomes a "real wall"? I wonder what the threshold is. I
> am thinking of doing a concrete border may be 16" tall (two 8" blocks)
> I wonder if I need a structural footing for that...looking for an
> effect like this:
>
> http://www.rogerhopkins.com/portfolio/walls/schecter003.JPG
>
> http://www.eruuf.org/Wall.jpg
>
> of course, the blocks would have stucco applied and painted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MC
>
>

Those pics look like walls. Your town could have the code on their website
how high a wall is considered.

Posted by tbasc@bellsouth.net on February 6, 2007, 10:38 am


> I understand in most cities if you build a concrete or masonry wall
> like a privacy wall along the property line you will need a permit, in
> Miami here you have to design the footings and wind load etc...and it
> makes a masonry wall fence cost prohibitive.
>
> I am wondering when is a wall considered a wall? I mean if I lay
> concrete blocks around the property just 8" tall I don't think it
> would be considered a wall, but may be a plant border. So at some
> point, it becomes a "real wall"? I wonder what the threshold is. I
> am thinking of doing a concrete border may be 16" tall (two 8" blocks)
> I wonder if I need a structural footing for that...looking for an
> effect like this:
>
> http://www.rogerhopkins.com/portfolio/walls/schecter003.JPG
>
> http://www.eruuf.org/Wall.jpg
>
> of course, the blocks would have stucco applied and painted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MC

You will have to ask the Building Department.
Codes I have seen specify max height, not min.
TB


Posted by BobK207 on February 7, 2007, 9:03 pm


> I understand in most cities if you build a concrete or masonry wall
> like a privacy wall along the property line you will need a permit, in
> Miami here you have to design the footings and wind load etc...and it
> makes a masonry wall fence cost prohibitive.
>
> I am wondering when is a wall considered a wall? I mean if I lay
> concrete blocks around the property just 8" tall I don't think it
> would be considered a wall, but may be a plant border. So at some
> point, it becomes a "real wall"? I wonder what the threshold is. I
> am thinking of doing a concrete border may be 16" tall (two 8" blocks)
> I wonder if I need a structural footing for that...looking for an
> effect like this:
>
> http://www.rogerhopkins.com/portfolio/walls/schecter003.JPG
>
> http://www.eruuf.org/Wall.jpg
>
> of course, the blocks would have stucco applied and painted.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MC



>I am wondering when is a wall considered a wall? I mean if I lay
> concrete blocks around the property just 8" tall I don't think it
> would be considered a wall, but may be a plant border. So at some
> point, it becomes a "real wall"?


depends on the jurisdiction

IMO the first "wall" is not a wall & the second one is borderline

I think in most towns taller than 3' is a wall, shorter is not a wall

with respect to codes....there is an intent behind the code, that is,
what the code is really trying to accomplish

the chances of 3' or shorter falling over or blowing over are pretty
small.....plus the consequences of failed 3' wall are much less severe
than the failure of a 6' or 8' wall.

cheers
Bob





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