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Gas heaters? ? ? Ray 10-29-2006
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Posted by Ray on October 29, 2006, 10:21 am


I live in an 80-year-old six-unit apartment building, and the single-pipe
steam radiator system doesn't work all that well.

I'd like to put in supplemental heating, and one good possibility seems to
be a natural gas stove-heater.

I see that there are vented and unvented models. It seems to me that
unvented might be a bit dangerous.

But I remember that years ago, many houses had room gas heaters with no
venting at all. You just lit them, and the heat filled the room -- gas fumes
and all -- and I don't remember any bad results.

Any guidance welcome.



Posted by George on October 29, 2006, 10:36 am


Ray wrote:
> I live in an 80-year-old six-unit apartment building, and the single-pipe
> steam radiator system doesn't work all that well.
>
> I'd like to put in supplemental heating, and one good possibility seems to
> be a natural gas stove-heater.
>
> I see that there are vented and unvented models. It seems to me that
> unvented might be a bit dangerous.
>
> But I remember that years ago, many houses had room gas heaters with no
> venting at all. You just lit them, and the heat filled the room -- gas fumes
> and all -- and I don't remember any bad results.
>

Maybe you can't recall anything because of all that exposure to
combustion byproducts? But seriously I can't ever remember any of the
older equipment that didn't give me a headache and a "blah" feeling.
The newer electronic control units with good flame control and oxygen
sensors etc seem to be a lot better.

> Any guidance welcome.
>
>

Posted by Frank on October 29, 2006, 12:36 pm



George wrote:
> Ray wrote:
> > I live in an 80-year-old six-unit apartment building, and the single-pipe
> > steam radiator system doesn't work all that well.
> >
> > I'd like to put in supplemental heating, and one good possibility seems to
> > be a natural gas stove-heater.
> >
> > I see that there are vented and unvented models. It seems to me that
> > unvented might be a bit dangerous.
> >
> > But I remember that years ago, many houses had room gas heaters with no
> > venting at all. You just lit them, and the heat filled the room -- gas fumes
> > and all -- and I don't remember any bad results.
> >
>
> Maybe you can't recall anything because of all that exposure to
> combustion byproducts? But seriously I can't ever remember any of the
> older equipment that didn't give me a headache and a "blah" feeling.
> The newer electronic control units with good flame control and oxygen
> sensors etc seem to be a lot better.
>
> > Any guidance welcome.

Unvented scares me. Friend put in his hunting camp when he got gas for
free from people that have mineral rights to property. I know that the
new units have sensors to protect against low oxygen and carbon
monoxide, but I'd rather not have to rely on them when I'm asleep.
You're still going to have to breathe combustion products and will get
extra moisture. I'd get vented or electric space heaters.

Frank


Posted by George on October 29, 2006, 3:17 pm


Frank wrote:
> George wrote:

>
> Unvented scares me. Friend put in his hunting camp when he got gas for
> free from people that have mineral rights to property. I know that the
> new units have sensors to protect against low oxygen and carbon
> monoxide, but I'd rather not have to rely on them when I'm asleep.
> You're still going to have to breathe combustion products and will get
> extra moisture. I'd get vented or electric space heaters.
>
> Frank
>

Agree about using them in a sleeping area. You may just never wake up.
Every one I have seen is placarded against that use.

Posted by Charles Schuler on October 29, 2006, 4:56 pm



> Ray wrote:
>> I live in an 80-year-old six-unit apartment building, and the single-pipe
>> steam radiator system doesn't work all that well.
>>
>> I'd like to put in supplemental heating, and one good possibility seems
>> to be a natural gas stove-heater.
>>
>> I see that there are vented and unvented models. It seems to me that
>> unvented might be a bit dangerous.
>>
>> But I remember that years ago, many houses had room gas heaters with no
>> venting at all. You just lit them, and the heat filled the room -- gas
>> fumes and all -- and I don't remember any bad results.
>>
>
> Maybe you can't recall anything because of all that exposure to combustion
> byproducts?

God, but that cracked me up!



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