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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Blattus_Slafaly on March 29, 2008, 7:47 pm
gore wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:36:25 -0400, Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ?
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>>> The easiest way is to plug into your dryer outlet and back feed to your
>>> electrical box
>> Dumb idea for a number of reasons
>
> What are the reasons? He has the main off. I am just curious because I
> thought it sounded pretty good and you said for a number of reasons but
> didn't give any.
>
>
He is a moron, don't listen to him.
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Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8
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Posted by terry on March 30, 2008, 10:25 pm
On Mar 29, 9:47=A0pm, Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ?
> gore wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:36:25 -0400, Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ?
>
> >>> The easiest way is to plug into your dryer outlet and back feed to you=
r
> >>> electrical box
> >> Dumb idea for a number of reasons
>
> > What are the reasons? He has the main off. I am just curious because I
> > thought it sounded pretty good and you said for a number of reasons but
> > didn't give any.
>
> He is a moron, don't listen to him.
>
> --
> Blattus Slafaly =A0? 3 =A0 =A0 :) =A07/8
Sounds OK technically. Is bad idea from safety angle; and illegal in
many places. Could result in legal and civil liability if someone gets
killed.
Should be no need to explain why!
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Posted by Tony Sivori on March 30, 2008, 4:39 pm
gore wrote:
>> Blattus Slafaly wrote:
>>
>>>The easiest way is to plug into your dryer outlet and back feed to your
>>>electrical box
>>
>> Dumb idea for a number of reasons
>
> What are the reasons? He has the main off. I am just curious because I
> thought it sounded pretty good and you said for a number of reasons but
> didn't give any.
I too considered it, it is cheaper than hiring an electrician to install a
transfer switch. Just Google around a bit, and you'll see why it is a very
bad idea.
The problem is that if you forget to turn off the mains, or if someone
else turns them on, or if your box is incorrectly wired, you could kill a
utility worker. The transformers will work in reverse to step up your
generator current to thousands of volts.
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/disasters/elecgenerators.asp
Back feeding is a serious and willful code violation. That means if you
burn down your house doing it, your insurance won't pay.
http://www.flatheadelectric.com/custserv/safety/generator/SafetyGenerator.htm
"In accordance with the National Electrical Code, paragraph 700-6;
Transfer equipment shall be designed and installed to prevent the
inadvertent interconnection of normal and emergency sources of supply in
any operation of the transfer equipment. Automatic transfer switches shall
be electrically operated and mechanically held."
It is against code. You might kill somebody. It is my understanding that
you could be held not just civilly liable, but also criminally.
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Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm now filtering all Google Groups posters.
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on March 29, 2008, 6:08 pm
On Mar 29, 5:51=EF=BF=BDpm, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:36:25 -0400, Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ?
>
> >The easiest way is to plug into your dryer outlet and back feed to your
> >electrical box
>
> Dumb idea for a number of reasons
has killed linemen who werent following the rules.
main breaker must must must be off!!!! not recommended!!
some breaker cabinets have safe backfeed alternatives.
the larger the generator the hungrier on gasoline, can you store 60
gallons or more at your home safely? it does spoil too, espically the
newer reformulated low volatile gasoline...........
if neighborhood power is out most gas stations cant pump
gas...........
your better off with a smaller generator, run a couple lights or
fridge, or furnace, or whatever....... one at a time
the idle use of gasoline is less with smaller units.
generators can be noisey, a big issue in a dead quiet no power
neighborhood.extra points if you run a line to a neighbor
harbor freight sells nice cheap generators for occasional use. if a
generator sits too long it might not start when you need it the most.
I have a 1000 watt generator its gotten a good bit of use, a 1000 watt
12 volt inverter, nice for quick emergencies, returned home from trip
after bad storm but still saw survivor. quick quiet just my car
idiling. have a 4500 watt unit only used it once
the price on permanent natural gas auto connect have dropped a lot in
the last few years. check home depot.
the power companies arent maintaining things like they used too, have
cut trucks and crews slowing restoration of power during emergencies
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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on March 29, 2008, 7:00 pm
-snip-
>the larger the generator the hungrier on gasoline, can you store 60
>gallons or more at your home safely? it does spoil too, espically the
>newer reformulated low volatile gasoline...........
Or legally? The neighboring city has a 5 gallon limit- unless it is
"contained in the metal tank fastened and attached to and used in
connection with any automobile for power purposes."
Jim
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