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Generator question....portable Rich 03-29-2008
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Posted by CJT on March 30, 2008, 12:39 am
Jim Elbrecht wrote:

>
> -snip-
>
>>the larger the generator the hungrier on gasoline, can you store 60
>>gallons or more at your home safely? it does spoil too, espically the
>>newer reformulated low volatile gasoline...........
>
>
> Or legally? The neighboring city has a 5 gallon limit- unless it is
> "contained in the metal tank fastened and attached to and used in
> connection with any automobile for power purposes."
>
> Jim

So there's you answer. Hook into the auto's tank. :-)

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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Blattus_Slafaly on March 29, 2008, 7:45 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:36:25 -0400, Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ?
>
>> The easiest way is to plug into your dryer outlet and back feed to your
>> electrical box
>
> Dumb idea for a number of reasons

Works for me.

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Posted by Eric on March 30, 2008, 2:24 pm
Blattus Slafaly 0/00 ? ? ? wrote:

> Rich wrote:
>> I'm in the market for a portable generator and just need it to run the
>> fridge the furnace and just small things after that. I went on a few web
>> sites and they seem to be geared to running your whole house instead of
>> just a few things to get past the storm or what ever. I live SW of Chicago
>> and the longest I've been without power was 3 days when a tornado came
>> through. I would like to buy one that would get me by for a day or two at
>> the most and only run the basics. What I'm having trouble with is sizing
>> the unit to my needs. Sump pump, furnace, fridge and some lighting but I
>> have all compact fluorescents.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice, especially from someone that has this basic setup,
>> Rich
>>
>>
> How do you expect to connect into the circuits of these few things?
> The easiest way is to plug into your dryer outlet and back feed to your
> electrical box (with the mains off of course). That way everything will
> run normally as always. A 5000 watt generator should do you. None of
> them will run for 2 or 3 days without refueling. You'll have to gas it
> up every day if you don't run it all night. Now you can get a small
> diesel generator and hook it up to your oil tank and it would run until
> the tank is empty. That will cost you much more. 5kw will give you
> about 30 amps, the rating of your dryer cable and breaker. In the US anyway.
>
Backfeeding is stupid and dangerous and leaves you wide open to criminal
liability. EVEN if its not you, how are you going to prove that it wasnt you
who sent a backfed charge out onto the powerline that killed the lineworker?
I can hear it now... "Oh i wont forget to shut off the main" Sure, sure.
Dont be so stinking cheap, go buy a transfer switch.
Eric


Posted by on March 30, 2008, 5:43 pm
wrote:

>> Only a complete MORON would publicly recommend the method for standby
>> power that is illegal and has, in too many cases, KILLED utility linemen.
>
>Got a cite to one of those cases? All the claimed ones I've seen were
>caused by the utility linemen not following procedures. People get all
>emotional blaming the person with the improperly connected generator,
>but the ultimate fault is always with the lineman since following
>procedures insures they will remain safe even if someone has an
>improperly connected generator. If you look at the limeman deaths
>repairing things after a storm, you find that there are just as many
>where no consumer generator was involved. Carelessness kills plain and
>simple.

The real hazard is to the user and his neighbors.

Posted by Frank on March 29, 2008, 6:44 pm
Rich wrote:
> I'm in the market for a portable generator and just need it to run the
> fridge the furnace and just small things after that. I went on a few web
> sites and they seem to be geared to running your whole house instead of just
> a few things to get past the storm or what ever. I live SW of Chicago and
> the longest I've been without power was 3 days when a tornado came through.
> I would like to buy one that would get me by for a day or two at the most
> and only run the basics. What I'm having trouble with is sizing the unit to
> my needs. Sump pump, furnace, fridge and some lighting but I have all
> compact fluorescents.
>
> Thanks for any advice, especially from someone that has this basic setup,
> Rich
>
>
My unit is 5500 running watts (7350 starting) and plugs in through a
transfer box. It can run my furnace, well, refrigerator and freezers
with spare power for some lights and TV. Clothes dryer, electric range,
water heater and air conditioner were too much to add and are not needed
for few days outage as are the aforementioned items. Whole set up
including cost of generator and transfer box installed by electrician
cost about $1,000 two years ago.

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