Germans Hoarding Light Bulbs (No CFL)

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control. They aren't the only ones.

to last us twenty years, longer than we will live.

Thanks. Had you not posted, I would've never knew the EU repealed the Straight Banana, Curvy Cucumber Laws. I had to look at the "bent cucumber" law.

In December they removed the laws.

"(Newser Summary) ? The EU took a U-turn on curved cucumbers and bent bananas and voted to repeal strict laws that ban the sale of imperfect produce, the Washington Post reports. Shops are barred from selling cauliflower less than 4.33 inches in diameter and not-green-enough asparagus until July, when such laws?long mocked by the British tabloids?will be wiped for 26 fruits and vegetables."

How many bulbs did you buy?

They are all retarded. I have been using CFLs for over a decade. I'm waiting for the next generation white LED's which are much more efficient than CFLs. Some LED are available but the price is still high.

I don't know the number, but we built our house 13 years ago, and have had very few bulb failures. We bought 40, 76, 100, 3-way, flood, and candelabra bulbs, based on the number of each type fixture we have, and then bought enough for two refills of each socket.

Bob-tx

control. They aren't the only ones.

to last us twenty years, longer than we will live.

Depends on your power company. Our nearly 125 volts is really hard on regular lightbulbs. I would have to have a shed to hold a lifetime supply. Switching to cf has saved me that trouble.

control. They aren't the only ones.

bulbs to last us twenty years, longer than we will live.

I have to buy 130v bulbs but they hold up well.

I tried some of those (they called them extended life bulbs at the time), but the light they produced was too warm/yellow for my tastes. I've also got 125VAC at the wall, so I just change them more often.

Jon

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Hardly surprising about the German (and other European) hoarding Bob...

Europeans and Americans choose to buy ordinary light bulbs around 9 times out of 10. Banning what people want gives the supposed savings - no point in banning an impopular product!

If new LED lights -or improved CFLs- are good, people will buy them - no need to ban ordinary light bulbs (little point). If they are not good, people will not buy them - no need to ban ordinary light bulbs (no point). The arrival of the transistor didn't mean that more energy using radio tubes had to be banned... they were bought less anyway.

All lights have advantages The ordinary simple light bulb has for many people a pleasing appearance, it responds quickly with bright broad spectrum light, is easy to use with dimmers and other equipment, can come in small sizes, and has safely been used for over 100 years.

100 W+ equivalent brightness is a particular issue - difficult and expensive with both fluorescents and LEDS - yet such incandescent bulbs are first in line for banning in both America and the EU

Energy? Since when does Europe or America need to save on electricity? There is no energy shortage. Note that if there was an energy shortage, the price rise would make people buy more efficient products anyway - no need to legislate for it.

Energy security? There are usually plenty of local energy sources, Middle East oil is not used for electricity generation, 1/2 world uranium exports are from Canada and Australia.

Consumers - not politicians - pay for the energy used. Certainly it is good to let people know how they can save energy and money

- but why force them to do it?

Emissions? Most cars have emissions. But does a light bulb give out any gases? Power stations might not either: In Sweden and France, as in Washington state practically all electricity is emission-free, while around half of it is in many European countries and in states like New York and California. Why should emission-free households be denied the use of lighting they obviously want to use? Low emission households will increase everywhere, since emissions will be reduced anyway through the planned use of coal/gas processing technology or energy substitution.

Also, the savings amounts can be questioned for many reasons: For a referenced list of reasons against light bulb bans, see

onwards

Even if a reduction in use was needed, then taxation to reduce consumption would make more sense since government can use the income to reduce emissions (home insulation schemes, renewable projects etc) more than any remaining product use causes such problems. People can still buy what they want, unlike with bans. However taxation on electrical appliances is hardly needed either, and is in principle wrong for similar reasons to bans (for example, emission-free households are hit too).

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I put some 130 volts bulbs in a lamp that is difficult to change. I thought the bulbs would last a year or so and make this a once a year choir. They have been working now for 15 years.

Jimmie