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Posted by Bryce on October 7, 2009, 11:58 am
Here's how my electric company is helping me:
To help customers use energy more efficiently, we’re
delivering two compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs)
to the homes of residential customers of FirstEnergy’s
Ohio operating companies -- Ohio Edison Company, The
Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company, and Toledo
Edison Company. These types of bulbs use up to 75
percent less electricity than incandescent bulbs
and can last 10 times longer -- contributing to
significant money and energy savings over the life
of the bulb.
Providing energy-efficient light bulbs is just one
way we can help our customers save money while also
helping the environment.
http://www.firstenergycorp.com/energyefficiency/cfl.html
They didn't mention that my monthly electric bills will
include a new 60 cent charge for the next three years
($21.60). It covers the cost of the two bulbs, shipping,
and it reimburses First Energy for their lost income
'cuz I will be using less electricity.
I hope they don't send me more bulbs.
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Posted by on October 7, 2009, 12:19 pm
> Here's how my electric company is helping me:
> To help customers use energy more efficiently, we=92re
> delivering two compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs)
> to the homes of residential customers of FirstEnergy=92s
> Ohio operating companies -- Ohio Edison Company, The
> Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company, and Toledo
> Edison Company. These types of bulbs use up to 75
> percent less electricity than incandescent bulbs
> and can last 10 times longer -- contributing to
> significant money and energy savings over the life
> of the bulb.
> Providing energy-efficient light bulbs is just one
> way we can help our customers save money while also
> helping the environment.
> http://www.firstenergycorp.com/energyefficiency/cfl.html
> They didn't mention that my monthly electric bills will
> include a new 60 cent charge for the next three years
> ($21.60). =A0It covers the cost of the two bulbs, shipping,
> and it reimburses First Energy for their lost income
> 'cuz I will be using less electricity.
> I hope they don't send me more bulbs.
Unbelievable. Of course this couldn't happen without the govt
allowing it, since they regulate the utility companies.
Here in NJ about 5 years ago they put a tax on everyone's electric
bill to raise money for new energy initiatives. An investigation
uncovered the utility commision had a $100Mil fund with no oversight,
no clear signature authority, etc. One of the things they have
done with that money is to subsidize folks who want to install solar
electric on their homes. So, rich folks in fancy houses got $30K to
help pay for solar systems that cost $60K. And the money comes from
a tax on some poor working stiffs electric bill. And at the end of
the day, the real problem is that solar is so expensive that it is not
competitive with conventional sources. You can hand out $30K to a
few rich folk, but it ain't gonna make any significant difference in
the big picture.
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Posted by on October 7, 2009, 12:45 pm
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:19:00 -0700 (PDT), trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>> Here's how my electric company is helping me:
>> To help customers use energy more efficiently, we’re
>> delivering two compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs)
>> to the homes of residential customers of FirstEnergy’s
>> Ohio operating companies -- Ohio Edison Company, The
>> Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company, and Toledo
>> Edison Company. These types of bulbs use up to 75
>> percent less electricity than incandescent bulbs
>> and can last 10 times longer -- contributing to
>> significant money and energy savings over the life
>> of the bulb.
>> Providing energy-efficient light bulbs is just one
>> way we can help our customers save money while also
>> helping the environment.
>> http://www.firstenergycorp.com/energyefficiency/cfl.html
>> They didn't mention that my monthly electric bills will
>> include a new 60 cent charge for the next three years
>> ($21.60). It covers the cost of the two bulbs, shipping,
>> and it reimburses First Energy for their lost income
>> 'cuz I will be using less electricity.
>> I hope they don't send me more bulbs.
>Unbelievable. Of course this couldn't happen without the govt
>allowing it, since they regulate the utility companies.
>Here in NJ about 5 years ago they put a tax on everyone's electric
>bill to raise money for new energy initiatives. An investigation
>uncovered the utility commision had a $100Mil fund with no oversight,
>no clear signature authority, etc. One of the things they have
>done with that money is to subsidize folks who want to install solar
>electric on their homes. So, rich folks in fancy houses got $30K to
>help pay for solar systems that cost $60K. And the money comes from
>a tax on some poor working stiffs electric bill. And at the end of
>the day, the real problem is that solar is so expensive that it is not
>competitive with conventional sources. You can hand out $30K to a
>few rich folk, but it ain't gonna make any significant difference in
>the big picture.
Environmentalism has always been a rich person's cult.
All of these "green" rebates are for people rich enough to exploit
them. Even with the rebate I doubt anyone will actually save any money
in the long run. Maintenance is the unmentioned 800 lb gorilla in the
room.
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Posted by HeyBub on October 7, 2009, 4:11 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> Unbelievable. Of course this couldn't happen without the govt
>> allowing it, since they regulate the utility companies.
>> Here in NJ about 5 years ago they put a tax on everyone's electric
>> bill to raise money for new energy initiatives. An investigation
>> uncovered the utility commision had a $100Mil fund with no
>> oversight, no clear signature authority, etc. One of the things
>> they have done with that money is to subsidize folks who want to
>> install solar electric on their homes. So, rich folks in fancy
>> houses got $30K to help pay for solar systems that cost $60K. And
>> the money comes from a tax on some poor working stiffs electric
>> bill. And at the end of the day, the real problem is that solar is
>> so expensive that it is not competitive with conventional sources.
>> You can hand out $30K to a few rich folk, but it ain't gonna make
>> any significant difference in the big picture.
> Environmentalism has always been a rich person's cult.
> All of these "green" rebates are for people rich enough to exploit
> them. Even with the rebate I doubt anyone will actually save any money
> in the long run. Maintenance is the unmentioned 800 lb gorilla in the
> room.
Right. Put "Green" and "New Jersey" together and the little guy is
double-screwed. And he's not even a light bulb.
"Falls" are the leading cause of injury requiring emergency room visits
(except in gun-free Chicago, of course, where the leading cause is
gunshots). Anyway, imagine 30 million homes with some type of solar
collector on the roof and legions of middle-aged men sweeping off the leaves
or snow or whatever.
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Posted by Tony on October 9, 2009, 11:43 pm
HeyBub wrote:
> gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> Unbelievable. Of course this couldn't happen without the govt
>>> allowing it, since they regulate the utility companies.
>>> Here in NJ about 5 years ago they put a tax on everyone's electric
>>> bill to raise money for new energy initiatives. An investigation
>>> uncovered the utility commision had a $100Mil fund with no
>>> oversight, no clear signature authority, etc. One of the things
>>> they have done with that money is to subsidize folks who want to
>>> install solar electric on their homes. So, rich folks in fancy
>>> houses got $30K to help pay for solar systems that cost $60K. And
>>> the money comes from a tax on some poor working stiffs electric
>>> bill. And at the end of the day, the real problem is that solar is
>>> so expensive that it is not competitive with conventional sources.
>>> You can hand out $30K to a few rich folk, but it ain't gonna make
>>> any significant difference in the big picture.
>> Environmentalism has always been a rich person's cult.
>> All of these "green" rebates are for people rich enough to exploit
>> them. Even with the rebate I doubt anyone will actually save any money
>> in the long run. Maintenance is the unmentioned 800 lb gorilla in the
>> room.
>
> Right. Put "Green" and "New Jersey" together and the little guy is
> double-screwed. And he's not even a light bulb.
>
> "Falls" are the leading cause of injury requiring emergency room visits
> (except in gun-free Chicago, of course, where the leading cause is
> gunshots). Anyway, imagine 30 million homes with some type of solar
> collector on the roof and legions of middle-aged men sweeping off the leaves
> or snow or whatever.
No need to sweep off snow, just make the panels with heating strips that
are powered off the grid! Sort of like the energy star refrigerators
with the heating strips to prevent condensation.
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> To help customers use energy more efficiently, we=92re
> delivering two compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs)
> to the homes of residential customers of FirstEnergy=92s
> Ohio operating companies -- Ohio Edison Company, The
> Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company, and Toledo
> Edison Company. These types of bulbs use up to 75
> percent less electricity than incandescent bulbs
> and can last 10 times longer -- contributing to
> significant money and energy savings over the life
> of the bulb.
> Providing energy-efficient light bulbs is just one
> way we can help our customers save money while also
> helping the environment.
> http://www.firstenergycorp.com/energyefficiency/cfl.html
> They didn't mention that my monthly electric bills will
> include a new 60 cent charge for the next three years
> ($21.60). =A0It covers the cost of the two bulbs, shipping,
> and it reimburses First Energy for their lost income
> 'cuz I will be using less electricity.
> I hope they don't send me more bulbs.